Honda engine update
17-Apr-2005, 03:48 PM
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Honda engine update
"Charlotte, NC - April 13, 2005 -- **************** has received more detailed information on upcoming Honda engine production for the TSX, Civic and Honda trucks, in addition to some very interesting speculation about the next S2000 and NSX. Foremost, the rumor of a 2.0L Turbo in the TSX has been all but confirmed. It will be a version of the RSX Type-S’s DOHC i-VTEC K20 power plant but will come equipped with a turbocharger to allow it to produce in the neighborhood of 250 horsepower. In addition, the next generation Civic Si and Acura EL (Canada) will receive K-Series DOHC 2.0L engines. The base Civic models will get SOHC i-VTEC 1.8L engines. As long standing rumors have predicted, the J35 will finally be expanded to 3.7L and see duty in the Ridgeline and Pilot. The upcoming Acura RDX will receive the 3.2L V6 that currently sees duty in the Acura TL.
Perhaps the most interesting information, however, pertains to Honda’s two sports cars. While what has been stated above is all but fact, the information about the NSX and S2000 is less clear and concise, mainly due to its departure from common speculation. In an effort to kick start their lineup’s sagging sales, Honda may be developing a new K-Series 2.2L engine for the S2000 to either replace the power plant in the current generation or power the next generation roadster, which may be called the S2200.
According to our source, Honda is also developing a C-Series 3.5L V6 for the next NSX. This goes against most rumors that either forecasted the NSX's demise or that Acura's flagship would receive a 3.5-4.0L V6 based on a completely new block.
Either way, it’s clear that Honda is up to something in an effort to spice up its lineup."
Perhaps the most interesting information, however, pertains to Honda’s two sports cars. While what has been stated above is all but fact, the information about the NSX and S2000 is less clear and concise, mainly due to its departure from common speculation. In an effort to kick start their lineup’s sagging sales, Honda may be developing a new K-Series 2.2L engine for the S2000 to either replace the power plant in the current generation or power the next generation roadster, which may be called the S2200.
According to our source, Honda is also developing a C-Series 3.5L V6 for the next NSX. This goes against most rumors that either forecasted the NSX's demise or that Acura's flagship would receive a 3.5-4.0L V6 based on a completely new block.
Either way, it’s clear that Honda is up to something in an effort to spice up its lineup."
just some rumours
17-Apr-2005, 07:52 PM
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do you know how much power will the Civic Si k-series 2.0 Dohc engine produce? and will it be i-vtec? or the i-vtec is rather for the other civic models with 1.8L engine?
hahaha... also, will the new civic si be the si-concept or will it simply just still be the current-style/design?
hahaha... also, will the new civic si be the si-concept or will it simply just still be the current-style/design?
17-Apr-2005, 08:35 PM
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Originally posted by t_dot_SiR
do you know how much power will the Civic Si k-series 2.0 Dohc engine produce? and will it be i-vtec? or the i-vtec is rather for the other civic models with 1.8L engine?
hahaha... also, will the new civic si be the si-concept or will it simply just still be the current-style/design?
do you know how much power will the Civic Si k-series 2.0 Dohc engine produce? and will it be i-vtec? or the i-vtec is rather for the other civic models with 1.8L engine?
hahaha... also, will the new civic si be the si-concept or will it simply just still be the current-style/design?
Also, the new siR won't be the same body style of the current one. It will look probably fairly similar to the concept Si shown at the Chicago Auto Show. It's also likely to be getting the K20A2 that's found in the '02-'04 RSX Type S cars.
Of course, that last part is not set in stone... but that seems to be what's going to happen.
18-Apr-2005, 06:08 PM
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I seriously doubt it. The RSX type S is already almost 30 grand. With a Turbo it woudl be well over $30,000 and hence not worth the price. Considering an SRT-4 is $28,000 and Can wreck ANYTHING!!!!! A nicely modded SRT can even rape an V8 Ferrari made before 2002. I don't think it will sell at that price, and I think its just speculation. I don't see Honda coming out with aTurbo anytime soon. You can thank the Idiot's who don't take care of there car's. Turbo's went out of fashion because of too many damn warranty claims from idiot's who ran cheap gas and didnt' let there car's cool down. And the S2000 is already a 2.2. So whats so new about that?
18-Apr-2005, 06:32 PM
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Originally posted by SiR JP
"i-vtec" replaces standard "v-tec" on all Honda's K-series applications. It's everything that "vtec" was only more, because it now has variable timing control (VTC). Remember, the B is dead, and has been for for nearly 4 years now.
Also, the new siR won't be the same body style of the current one. It will look probably fairly similar to the concept Si shown at the Chicago Auto Show. It's also likely to be getting the K20A2 that's found in the '02-'04 RSX Type S cars.
Of course, that last part is not set in stone... but that seems to be what's going to happen.
"i-vtec" replaces standard "v-tec" on all Honda's K-series applications. It's everything that "vtec" was only more, because it now has variable timing control (VTC). Remember, the B is dead, and has been for for nearly 4 years now.
Also, the new siR won't be the same body style of the current one. It will look probably fairly similar to the concept Si shown at the Chicago Auto Show. It's also likely to be getting the K20A2 that's found in the '02-'04 RSX Type S cars.
Of course, that last part is not set in stone... but that seems to be what's going to happen.
the k20 in the SiR and the k20 in the type-s are different vtec wise as the SiR only has it on the intake side and not the exhaust etc
18-Apr-2005, 08:07 PM
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Originally posted by shlammed
yeah but you gotta also remember all k-series arent the same
the k20 in the SiR and the k20 in the type-s are different vtec wise as the SiR only has it on the intake side and not the exhaust etc
yeah but you gotta also remember all k-series arent the same
the k20 in the SiR and the k20 in the type-s are different vtec wise as the SiR only has it on the intake side and not the exhaust etc
What I meant was that i-vtec can incoorporate all facets of traditional vtec, plus VTC. Many people think that i-vtec is only for economy, because the situation with the A3, but as the A2 and Z1 have shown, i-vtec can be for performance, too
19-Apr-2005, 01:10 PM
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Everyone say's that. "its just a neon" whatever. Every aspect of that car was changed to suit the Turbo application. Hub's, Brake's,Suspension. EVERYTHING was changed. And there selling everyone they make so obviously people don't care if its merely a "neon".There is no New car with a Warranty that has that kind of Performance for the money. And the RSX won't be a good value anymore if the price creep's towards $40,000. Don't belive me? Why do you think the RX-7,Supra,3000GT,300ZX all died? The cars and price went too far upmarket and they werent the performance bargain they once were. At one time there valued aroudn the same as a vette with Ferrari beating performance. Then they got too expensive and no one bought them anymore. And SPRacing I tottally agree with you. You know how pissed I was when they dropped the Rev's in the S2000 from 8900 to 8000rpm!! I was PISSED!!. Because of whining Journalist's Honda bumped the stroke and dropped the redline because"wa wa, It doesn't have enough torque" NO SH IT!!!!! it a frigging 2litre. How much Torque can you have before it scarifices Top end hp???Not much. Now it only rev's as high as a pedestrian GS-R. 8000 is still alot but that was one of the alluring feature's was that high redline. I drove 2 S2000's and they pulled like ****'s and sounded like an F1 car. People/Journalist's whine and Honda change's. If they wanted torque they should have bought a Z3 and shut there damn mouth's!!!!! I'l take the Rev's and the HP thank you very much.
19-Apr-2005, 03:44 PM
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SRT4 rocks, why? They warrenty it up to 400-500hp if you just the Mopar kits. So let me get this stright....I get to modify my car and keep my warrenty? Right On
Honda already did a turbo car back in the day, turbo Honda City. Was a 1.3L if I remember right and only out in Japan.
It'll be interesting to see a Turbo RSX but I won't hold my breath.
Also Acura compared to Dodge....you just can't do it. Acura is much higher class hence the price is higher. SRT4 may be the fastest for the money but people are still buying STIs over them cause the STI is a higher class car.
Honda already did a turbo car back in the day, turbo Honda City. Was a 1.3L if I remember right and only out in Japan.
It'll be interesting to see a Turbo RSX but I won't hold my breath.
Also Acura compared to Dodge....you just can't do it. Acura is much higher class hence the price is higher. SRT4 may be the fastest for the money but people are still buying STIs over them cause the STI is a higher class car.
19-Apr-2005, 04:02 PM
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I wouldn't dare rag on an SRT-4 as far as performance. But yeah comparing a luxury line vehicle to a sport compact is going a bit far. I'm sure there are lots of beat up cars that can beat a ferrari straight line.. Big Deal... The fact is its a Ferrari and the name says it all. I don't hate the SRT-4's but I can't say I love them. I'd still rather own any Honda over it, but that's just me. Besides the only people I've really seen driving SRt-4's are old men who wish they had a Corvette but couldn't afford it.
19-Apr-2005, 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by The G2 Racer
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Honda already did a turbo car back in the day, turbo Honda City. Was a 1.3L if I remember right and only out in Japan.
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Honda already did a turbo car back in the day, turbo Honda City. Was a 1.3L if I remember right and only out in Japan.
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In fact, Honda produced 2 stock turbo models in the 80s.
1st.
Honda City Turbo I & Honda City Turbo II ("The Bulldog").
(1237 cc to be exact -> 1.2L or 1.3L?)
2nd.
Honda Legend Turbo (2.0L V6 Wing Turbo).
19-Apr-2005, 08:37 PM
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"RSX Type-S’s DOHC i-VTEC K20 power plant but will come equipped with a turbocharger to allow it to produce in the neighborhood of 250 horsepower"
what do you guys think of that? ^^^
since it will be considerd STOCK, do you think it can compete with the SRT-4???
what do you guys think of that? ^^^
since it will be considerd STOCK, do you think it can compete with the SRT-4???
