gooseshit

on a new car after how many years do u have go for drive clean? is it 4 years?

Whiplash

three i believe..depending on year of car you got..
my 2002 should be up for it in 2005

gooseshit

i got a 2000.........thanx

Whiplash

probably 2003 then..
shyt..yer up soon then aren't ya..

good luck!!

AzimuthX

You better pray man, 94 Civic....

CiViC [-_-] BoY ™

i just got my 97 etested and it passed with flying colours

SiR Power

I just did mine last week. If your car is a 2000 you should have no problems at all. I was worried that my AEM CAI filter was dirty and it would not pass but it did with flying colours.

CiViC [-_-] BoY ™

mine past with flying colours
hardly even moved the needles things on the computer lol

but i almost cried when the guy drove it onto the Dyno (lol my car on a DYNO) it was a really steap ramp and my low car just went scrap on the the front bumper but it wasn't anything to worrie about

EL_Sport

Yup as mentioned it would be this year, 2003. I just did mine a few weeks ago (2000 Acura EL) as my plates expire in February. My car passed with flying colours too, barely even registered. What a waste of time and money [cough] cashgrab [cough]. I don't understand why a car that is barely 3 years old (delivery taken Mar/00) has to go for a test or would even come close to failing.

The G2 Racer

EL_Sport: Some people beat on their cars a lot and don't maintain them. Like never do oil canges and such. That's why they test new cars.

Buddah

To answer your question: The reason being is that the one most commonality between most drivers is that they don't maintain there cars. Maintenance and service is key to keeping your car/truck running smoothly and without serious incident. This includes changing your oil every 3-4 thousand kilometres....*not 10.000 kilometres...Civic [- -] Boy *wink* So even new cars that are not properly maintained will produces harmful materials into our air...and so, the Ministry of Enviroment has set this standard. I understand that maybe you do keep your car in good running condition and follow your scheduled tune ups etc...but, there are those that don't. ANd it's impossible to weed them out so, a standard is made instead for everyone.

btw, I'm a Certified Emissions Inspector....heh.

AzimuthX

The new Hondas are 8000 KM

Buddah

so, you're telling me the new hondas defy the physics of the conventional combusion engines??? as far as I know, the new hondas still use the same oil filters and still use the same oil we all use...what allows it to be changed at 8000 kms...much less have Honda support and condone this? I talk to staff from all Honda dealerships on a daily basis and none have said the new hondas can change their oils at 8000 kms and do it with the support of service advisors from honda...I mean, if you want to do it, go ahead...but, no one in honda will tell you to change your oil when you hit 8000 kms...so, I'm sorry to say that fact is false. heh.

EL_Sport

Its not that I don't agree with emissions testing, I just think that testing cars that are barely 3 years old is pointless and nothing but a cash grab on the part of the provincial government. The amount of cars that fail that are 3 years old or less can't be very many. IMO, the cut off should be at least 5 years.

Buddah

You'd be surprise on the number of people testing vehicles 3 years old or newer...hows this, I had one guy come in with a 2000 Camry...hasn't changed his oil for like 9000 kms...refuses to change his oil before the test...so, we gave him his certification and sent him to the Etest facility...he does the test....FAILS miserably...isn't convinced so, tells the guy to do it again...FAILS even worse this time. So, he just spent 37.50 for the initial test and 17 dollars for a retest...we take the car off the dyno...and he's pissed off and can't understand why he failed...

Trust me, we have a lot of people like this. Some people just don't understand the word..."maintenance"

AzimuthX

No your wrong

I'll go get backup... brb

Here's my reliable source... Maintenance Menu from Honda.

Buddah

I see what your point is...but, what you have overlooked is, these are maintenance packages that should be done every 8,000 kms. This does not include your regular fluid changes. Note, it's maintenance packages that every new car has that Honda recommends to come in for service to maintain their warranties in tact. But, what you might have interpreted incorrectly is that, oil changes and so forth should be done in between each service interval...Each combustion engine consume some oil...and in doing so, dirty it too. Can you imagine how black and thick your engine oil would be after 8000 kms??? Even more so, can you imagine the molecular stability and lubricating efficiency of your oil after 8000 kms??? And after 8000 kms, you would have consumed a lot of oil. As a matter of fact, I changed Civic Boy's oil and he only had a lil less than half a litre left in his engine. As well, the oil lost it's consistancy...it was black and extrememly gritty...Remember, it depends on your driving habbits...if you are more aggressive, it's recommended that you change the oil earlier...call Honda if you feel I'm mistaken...they will tell you the same thing. Here's a link to go to if your not entirely satistfied. Remember, you maintance schedules are only there so that Honda knows you are doing them to maintain the validity of your warranty. But, it doesn't mean that, they guarantee if you do the maintenance that your car won't break down or need parts replaced beyond your warrantee. After all, it's better to be safe than sorry...being it's only a 20 dollar feeling of added comfort that you are taking care of your car...and keeping the risk of further problems to your engine as far away as you can.

http://www.honda.ca/HondaEng/YouAndY...neral+Tips.htm

Cheers.

AzimuthX

Yea I question the maintenance schedule on the brochure and the owners manual, my dad hesitates changing it every 8000 km, whats so different from the new K20 and the civic (D16 something), except for direct injection.

What would you recommend, when to change it and not screw up maintenace schedule. Every 4000 in between, my dad wants 6000... He strongly disagrees my suggestment for every 4000 (done at KS-R), oh well his car.