imported_SylverCivic

and how many races do you think those helicopters find? its not a question of whether or not its cost effective, they use the helicopters on things that rarely happen anymore so they are wasting the same amount of fuel.

ok, so a civic is an easy steal, but why is it that every chance they get they ignore every other car on the road and keep their eye on me even after my plates are checked?

Im not for streetracing, Im just for the rights to be free and not watched like a hawk all the time, and at times harassed due to the fact im driving a car that i enjoy driving. This law gives them more freedoms to give arbitrary tickets with higher penalties.

Nova_Dust

I would tend to think it is a case to case situation. I don't think every police officer follows you on every single occasion?

Officers are required to meet a certain ticket quota on a monthly basis, and dollar value does not matter. Most of the time, I would think it is one of those "being at the wrong place at the wrong time" type of thing.

I tend not to think so negative in situations like this, because that will not change a thing. You might as well think happy thoughts and enjoy driving. Afterall, your car has some common modifications just like everyone else. It is not like you are driving with a pound of coke in the trunk.

WTi

bill 203 is about to pass, everyone can kiss their modified cars goodbye:

Bill 203 Status

marker

Look again - that Bill passed into law quite a while ago.

Funny thing is, I haven't noticed a surge in vehicle crushings since then. Maybe the sky isn't falling after all.

WTi

so has anyone run into the problem yet of having their car impounded on the spot?

my bad, it was passed june 4th. i was confused by an article i read in pim magazine.

is no one concerned about this new law? basically any cop can seize your car any time, anywhere on or off the street for any reason they like and you cannot appeal it at all.

marker

Not for "any" reason they see fit.

There is a prescribed set of circumstances in which a cop can impound your car, just the same as there were circumstances pre-Bill 203 in which your car could be impounded. Those circumstances, though a little broader now with the passing of Bill 203, are still fairly narrowly defined.

Also, there is an avenue of "appeal". If you can demonstrate that the car was being operated without your permission, as in it was stolen at the time of offence, you can get your car out of impound very quickly. Mind you, if YOU were the driver at time of offence, this won't help you.

Nobody driving responsibly within the law has anything to worry about with Bill 203. Red-light racers, street and highway silly-bugger racers, and organized street racers are the ones targeted by the Bill.

If you don't want to fall victim to the provisions of Bill 203, just make sure your driving doesn't resemble any of the above. If your driving does resemble the targeted groups, then you're part of the problem the Bill is trying to address.

Double_B

Pretty plain and simple.

WTi

i agree completely that it is targeting street racing.

this new law allows police to impound your car and suspend your license for anything they "think" might be related to racing. this includes even squealing your tires. now i've squealed my tires plenty of times un-intentionally when i've been at a stop light with one wheel on a manhole cover, or when the roads have been a bit damp. if i do this and a police officer sees it, and thinks to himself, "hey, that guy must be racing" then he can take my car with me being able to do nothing about it. to think that the police won't make mistakes impounding innocent people's cars is a bit naieve imo.

marker

To think that you can't take off from a stop without squealing your tires, or that a cop won't be able to tell the difference between a tire squeal coming from an aggressive hard launch versus a little accidental chirp, is also a little naive, IMHO.

Double_B

Everyone is getting worked up about this and really, if you aren't doing anything illegal, even if you get pulled over, you have nothing to worry about. What we should be concentrating on making sure others are aware and are not racing. Promoting going to the track etc.

Too much whining on what the police are doing. As long as they are doing everything legally, there should not be any issues.

VTEC_Thunder

If you drive normally and watch your *** and don't do anything to attract attention at the wrong time in the wrong place....even if your car is modified, the cops shouldn't bother you. I drive through heavily patrolled areas on a daily basis, less than 50 feet at times from a patrolling cruizer with no muffler on my car....and they don't even look. My car looks relatively stock and I drive the speed limit and I don't rev it up when I'm driving in these areas.

If your not doing anything wrong, they shouldn't bother you.

rice-01

I think this really varies for each person. Some people just get pulled over or followed for no reason without doing anything illegal, or having any flashy mods.

I've had some good and bad experiences with cops. Most of the officers in general are fair. Its the few bad apples that just want to get a power trip that really give the police a bad impression to the import community.

To be honest there has been a blitz every year for the last 10 years. The programs change names, but in essence its the same thing each year. Its just one of those things you have to deal with when getting into modification of your vehicle. just like bad apples within the police there are bad apples with every group.

VTEC_Thunder

^^ Yeah I've been followed too, several times. they were just waiting for me to slip up and do something wrong just to pull me over. I don't know why they have to tail gate you to the point where they are practically pushing you, cause if you speed up a bit, BANG they get you for speeding.

Most cops are fair though I'd say. From my experience anyways.