imported_xplizitremix

I think what you said is B.S. last time i checked most people who race are those with civics, cavaliers, older mustangs... AMG's, Z06 and Porsches??? Maybe once ever blue moon but i believe police are more crackdown on modified civics etc.

Police pull over anyone and everyone who is disobeying the law, even though they have regular check ups on civics, not only cause they are very widley modded but also very much the most stolen car usually and easiest to steal also. I would rather them do these checks and maybe in a blue moon and if your lucky they catch a guy who just stole ur car with the regular checks


On street racing i have no comment as everyone inside knows whether they have or not. Everybody likes to be a hero on forums saying this and that is bad, this is horrible, blah blah blah

DumbasSi

Every spring the police talk about thiewr anti-street racing campaigns, so this year is no different.

If you do it and get caught, then be prepared for the punishment. The people that don't, like myself, could really care less because the "crack down" doesn't effect me.

If the police want to "crack down" on something, it should be poor driving in general. Street racing, yapping on the phone/reading/applying makeup/not paying attention, etc.

Street racing related accidents acccount for a very small percentage of driving related fatalities.

marker

There were 229 traffic fatalities in the GTA in 2005.

Impaired driving accounted for less than 30% of those fatalities. In raw numbers, that translates to about 70 or so deaths.

Off the top of my head, there were 9, maybe 10, KNOWN street racing-related fatalities in the GTA last year. That translates to about 4% of traffic fatalities, which even at that level is a lot higher than many street racers and their apologists would like to admit.

Unlike alcohol-related fatalities, which have been on a downward trend for the last many years, the trend for street-racing related fatalities is on the rise.

Nobody is ever going to be the perfect driver out there. People will always be forgetting to check their blind spots, misjudging distances, and making those other little mistakes that end up in collision. That's human error at work and it's one of the reasons that people should drive defensively to protect themselves against others' "little mistakes".

But impaired driving and street racing are not "little mistakes". They are the outcome of a deliberate decision to violate the law to known extreme. Like alcohol-related fatalities, deaths due to street racing are so absolutely inexcusable because there is absolutely no justification at all for putting yourself in that situation to begin with.

I'm all for the harsher penalties. If someone wants to go fast or see who's faster, there are plenty of track days and organized on-track competition available to help you do so legally and safely in a controlled environment. If you're not responsible to seek out those many avenues, then you shouldn't be on the road at all.

chrisk20

I guess you werent at the track when the cops setup shop outside and busted people who were actually listening . While im all against street racing, these laws are going to be abused. You drive a civic and your merging from an onramp and accelerating hard, you run into a cop on a bad day. He can claim you were racing. If he doesnt like you your screwed, your insurance, license, job, he has the power to screw all of that up for you. Funny they compare drunk driving which kills thousands of people a year to Import street racing. You could count the number of people killed by a street racer in the past decade on 2 hands. They should be spending more time catching people who run red lights and actually kill people, rather than trying to bust the .000001% of the population who race in the middle of nowhere at 4am in the morning

marker

Oh? I can think of 9 or 10 just last year just in the GTA.

Regarding cops outside race tracks - nobody got nailed when Pacer ran their drags at Mosport even though the police were there supporting the event.

However, just because one goes to a race track instead of racing on the street doesn't mean that they should expect a pass on their car if it has unsafe or illegal modifications. If it's not legal or safe for the street, it doesn't belong on the street at all.

Toptuner

I think chrisk20 point is that there is more DUI related deaths then street racing period and what about the shooting in the last few years hopefully no summer of the gun this year again wheres the POLICE driving around looking for street races. I agree take it to the track but I have to be honest I have done short passes (barely a min) and I'm pretty sure we are not all angels. hell I'm just being honest

Nova_Dust

The point is not which type of act/negligence that causes the most car related death; but to minimize unnecessary death all together. In my opinion, there is no point to compare street racing related death to other type of traffic related death.

Stealing one million dollars is theft; stealing one dollar is also theft. The latter may be overlooked because of quantity, but in theory, it is still considered theft.

Toptuner

hey if the police are joining the 2 so can we. this will always be an unsolved topic and thats sad but thats life and lifes a bit*h we have to do our part haha

imported_Zyepher

Police "supporting" the event. Thats some bulls hit if I ever heard it.

marker

I guess then that you were not there and attending the event to see it.

And if that's the case, you're just talking through your ***, again.

Pimpin-EL

It should die down by June i believe...every beginning of summer its like this... Last time i got off work and officers were already there waiting for me. My car was already lifted by a tow truck LOL...

97SiR

LMAO! Rich kids in their parents porches! Wow, so many illiterates on this forum.

Going back to the topic, however, I do agree with cops ticketing street racers and drunk drivers. I believe the law is not harsh enough for these people.

Those who claim that they got pulled over just because you have altezza lights are full of crap. You must've done something else to get the attention from the cop. I've had altezzas for years now and never been pulled over. You think cops have nothing better to do than pull over some punk a$$ kid with a Civic? They only pull you over if you give them a reason to do so.

EF_GSR

First off, all of those "been there, heard that before" do not apply this time around ... don't kid yourself; this time it's for real. In fact, I would be so bold as to say expect Bill 203 (or some modified version of it) to receive Royal Assent sometime before or during the summer.

While all of the generalizations and stereotypes have no place in this thread or in everyday life, don't be surprised if some police officers apply these negative stereotypes to certain makes/models/styles of vehicles. Much like any field, there are good police officers who are able to exercise common sense and their discretion, and there are those who cannot. You can bet that a few people will get burnt and be made an example of ... just don't put yourself in a position to be that poor sap.

It would be interesting to hear the comments of those that have actually read the contents of Bill 203 (found HERE ). Some of the proposed amendments to the Highway Traffic Act are extremely interesting. Highlights include:


* application of the HTA to areas other than highways (i.e. parking lots);

* in the case of a blood-alcohol reading between .05 and .08, replace 12-hour licence suspension with a roadside licence suspension of 3, 7 or 30-days;

* "conduct review" programs (at a fee, of cour$e) for individuals who's licence has been suspended, have been involved in one or more motor vehicle collisions, have been convicted of an offence under the HTA, or any other prescribed class of persons;

* red and blue flashing lights for police vehicles;

* amend s. 172 HTA to read "No person shall drive a motor vehicle on a highway in a race or contest, while performing a stunt or on a bet or wager";

* increase penalties available under s. 172 HTA to a monetary penalty of $2,000 - $10,000, imprisonment up to six months in addition to a licence suspension of up to 2 years (first offence) or 10 years (subsequent offence);

* automatice roadside licence suspension of 7-days and impoundment of vehicle for 7-days if suspected of breaching s. 172 HTA;


These proposed amendments are in addition to the recent street racing provisions in the Criminal Code of Canada under ss. 249.2, 249.3 and 249.4 (found HERE )

While I'm happy, as a motorist, that the province wants to protect me and my family, I am deathly afraid that as a car enthusiast I may potentially be grouped in with the motorists who drive without respect for their safety or the safety of others on the highway. FWIW, my EF hatch is a slow, bone-stock 90-hp econo box - however, I do own a domestic vehicle which may attract the attention of law enforcement officials due to its' road presence.

Sorry for the long-winded post, but I just wanted to add my two cents to the debate

Tyson09

iTrader: (1)

On this note i just got pulled over on sunday, i wasn't doing anything wrong and was driving the speed limit but because my bodykit is unpainted i stand out.

The cop pulled me over to check my car and make sure i had nothing illegal, he asked what my mods were and checked my engine bay. instead of sayin he has no right to look i just talked with him as if i was sellin him the car. he said thanks have a great day.

just goes to show my point before, if your not in the wrong they have nothing.

marker

Ah, but he does have a right to look.

Tyson09

iTrader: (1)

not under my hood though without a reason, but o well i didn't care, maybe he's a car enthusiast himself. all im sayin is if you meet the standards and dont act like a punk kid driver then ur fine.

marker

You don't get to decide whether the cop does or doesn't have a reason. The only thing you can do is comply.

The HTA permits roadside vehicle inspections such as the officer deems necessary, and under the HTA you are required to assist as directed, including popping the hood. Failure to assist can lead to a $1,000 fine.

and

SugaDaddy

http://www.gtcars.ca/online/rants-sm...ck-summer.html

just found out that this car was towed (see link above)

in hamilton they are not harassing us yet so far.

maybe this can help with some of the stuff that is done to the car (see link below)

http://forums.vitalmotion.net/police...your-cars.html

NOS IS LEGAL?

"I want to install a nitrous oxide system in my car
It is legal to possess nitrous oxide. However, the system must be securely mounted. The bottle should be mounted rigidly away from crumple zones. Hatchbacks with bottles containing compressed gas must have a blow-by tube routed underneath the car; in case of failure the gas vents out of the vehicle, not in it. Do not drop it or damage the valve and do not grind off the bottle's date of manufacture. Secure bottles firmly in their mounting brackets, preferably with rubber insulation to protect the bottle. The lines from the bottle to the engine must be of the highest quality and kept separate from all heat sources.
Note: Although legal to possess, most insurance companies will not insure a vehicle equipped with nitrous oxide systems.
Transportation of Dangerous Goods Act: Fail to meet safety requirements, safety standards and safety marks while transporting dangerous goods. (Section 2) - no set fine"

copied from above link

Tyson09

iTrader: (1)

Well whatever it is , i got nothing to hide i always comply with the cops, proper yes sir no sir, its the fast easy way out without havin the cop raise an eyebrow.

CRXTC

Profiling is not legal nor is harassment, they are crossing the line. I can see a law suit being started over things like this.

Mike