concerning ontario safety...
10-Oct-2004, 01:48 PM
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concerning ontario safety...
I'm gonna be buying another car and I got some questions about getting the safety.
-there is a 10cm long crack in the bottom corner of the windshield, i heard it only needs replacing if the crack obstructs your view, is that true?
-the fuel guage is not working
-the power steering is not working
-at what point does rust become an issue for safety? the outer body is ok but the rocker panels have holes and there a hole the size of a dime in the wheel well. i thought as long as theres no holes its ok, and if thats the case can the holes be patched up with bondo or something?
can a car pass with these problems? i did some searching but everything i found was pretty vague, i guess its more up to whether the mechanic thinks it is safe?
Matt
-there is a 10cm long crack in the bottom corner of the windshield, i heard it only needs replacing if the crack obstructs your view, is that true?
-the fuel guage is not working
-the power steering is not working
-at what point does rust become an issue for safety? the outer body is ok but the rocker panels have holes and there a hole the size of a dime in the wheel well. i thought as long as theres no holes its ok, and if thats the case can the holes be patched up with bondo or something?
can a car pass with these problems? i did some searching but everything i found was pretty vague, i guess its more up to whether the mechanic thinks it is safe?
Matt
10-Oct-2004, 01:51 PM
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Depends where you go. Some place are really tight some are not. Windshield will have to be replaced for sure I believe. Rust is dangerous when theres holes under the car, etc that you are about to fall through. If it's just your rockers I don't think they can fail you for that.
10-Oct-2004, 02:43 PM
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It was the rust im mostly worried about, though its not that bad really.. mostly just the rockers. say, is there a time limit to getting the car certified e-tested and registered from the point where i change the ownership?
10-Oct-2004, 02:53 PM
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go to a back yard garage... not midas or canadian tire
fuel gauge isnt check.. PS isnt checked.. windshield can slide.. tell them that if anyone asks, it just happened... the holes in the rocker are unsafe... maybe he'll let em slide.. maybe not.. best best.. get some fibreglass sheets and cover it... then spray the entire rocker on both sides with that black rubberized rocker gaurd from CTC... paint to match if you want...
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fuel gauge isnt check.. PS isnt checked.. windshield can slide.. tell them that if anyone asks, it just happened... the holes in the rocker are unsafe... maybe he'll let em slide.. maybe not.. best best.. get some fibreglass sheets and cover it... then spray the entire rocker on both sides with that black rubberized rocker gaurd from CTC... paint to match if you want...
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10-Oct-2004, 03:57 PM
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like shlammed mentioned, it depends on where you go and is the mechanic willing to take the risk..... if they safetied your car then shortly you get into an accident due to the car itself causing the accident... the mechanic can be in deep shiit.... an unsafe vehicle will not only harm you, but others that might be using the road.....
1) replace the windshield, even if the crack doesn't obstruct your view, but you never know when it'll become severe and might shatter straight in your face when you drive high speed on highway....
2) check the rust more precise and fix whereever there's holes (professionally), if its just minor rusts, bondo it... (very easy!)
3) fuel gauge does not cause unsafety-ness... but its always better for you to know where you're at in gas level.... especially winter time!!
4) power steering... i'm not sure...i don't think it'll affect you.... you can always say the power steering wasn't came with your car, so it wasn't part of the inspection....
just fix it now or as soon as you have the $$$ (if $$$ is the problem...) you don't want trouble for your mechanic, and you don't want to risk the safety of yourselfs and OTHERS!
1) replace the windshield, even if the crack doesn't obstruct your view, but you never know when it'll become severe and might shatter straight in your face when you drive high speed on highway....
2) check the rust more precise and fix whereever there's holes (professionally), if its just minor rusts, bondo it... (very easy!)
3) fuel gauge does not cause unsafety-ness... but its always better for you to know where you're at in gas level.... especially winter time!!
4) power steering... i'm not sure...i don't think it'll affect you.... you can always say the power steering wasn't came with your car, so it wasn't part of the inspection....
just fix it now or as soon as you have the $$$ (if $$$ is the problem...) you don't want trouble for your mechanic, and you don't want to risk the safety of yourselfs and OTHERS!
10-Oct-2004, 04:05 PM
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I dont want to endanger anyone.. im going to replace the rocker panels because they're in rough shape for sure. the other stuff is relatively small.. didnt even notice the crack until the guy showed me. I doubt power steering matters since lots of cars come without it. thanks for the replies.
Matt
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10-Oct-2004, 07:27 PM
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The power stearing may not be checked depending on what mechanic you go to.
The windshield you may get lucky on. I got away with 2 huge crackes across the bottom of mine since my mechanic is my friend and I told him I'll replace it when I have more money.
As for the rust it depends on the rust on the underside really. Body rust is more along the lines of how it affects you in an accident.
The windshield you may get lucky on. I got away with 2 huge crackes across the bottom of mine since my mechanic is my friend and I told him I'll replace it when I have more money.
As for the rust it depends on the rust on the underside really. Body rust is more along the lines of how it affects you in an accident.
10-Oct-2004, 11:17 PM
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they dont check the PS, cuz they dont drive it, so whatever, just goto a small garage, like a european garage, where they dont care about the car, and say im driving this car, its not for sale, its just for winter, so no worries.....and thats all...
11-Oct-2004, 09:32 AM
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I hate when people try to get around passing safeties....they are put in place for the"SAFETY" of you and the public.....and when these same people have put in as much time in school as a trained licenced tech then they can say what is safe and what is not.....we as techs. have to follow a safety book on this stuff we don't just make things up to be ******...think of it this way you are in control of a 3000 pound deadly weapon..... and it's my job to make sure it stays in your control from a safety stand point.......somethings are considered unsafe for reasons must people don't know about............P.S. don't get to mad at me I just needed to get that out...
11-Oct-2004, 12:06 PM
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At our Shop we do drive the car. have to check is speedo works and any thing wrong with the way it drives. bad pull, CV shaft clicking, bad breaks etc. if the car comes with power steering it has to work. if you get pulled over by the ministry saftey checks they'll get you for not work PS. Window can't have cracks no matter where it is. some stone chips might be ok depending if they are in your sight line. holes in the body are never ok. they should check everything. it's for your safety and others on the road. I've seen some cars on tyhe road that just shouldn't be driven. I think the saftey check should be done more regularly like once every 2 years. get some of this junk of the road.
11-Oct-2004, 09:00 PM
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Originally posted by Redz81
At our Shop we do drive the car. have to check is speedo works and any thing wrong with the way it drives. bad pull, CV shaft clicking, bad breaks etc. if the car comes with power steering it has to work. if you get pulled over by the ministry saftey checks they'll get you for not work PS. Window can't have cracks no matter where it is. some stone chips might be ok depending if they are in your sight line. holes in the body are never ok. they should check everything. it's for your safety and others on the road. I've seen some cars on tyhe road that just shouldn't be driven. I think the saftey check should be done more regularly like once every 2 years. get some of this junk of the road.
At our Shop we do drive the car. have to check is speedo works and any thing wrong with the way it drives. bad pull, CV shaft clicking, bad breaks etc. if the car comes with power steering it has to work. if you get pulled over by the ministry saftey checks they'll get you for not work PS. Window can't have cracks no matter where it is. some stone chips might be ok depending if they are in your sight line. holes in the body are never ok. they should check everything. it's for your safety and others on the road. I've seen some cars on tyhe road that just shouldn't be driven. I think the saftey check should be done more regularly like once every 2 years. get some of this junk of the road.
11-Oct-2004, 09:55 PM
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Originally posted by shlammed
I hope you do plan on fixing all of this because you are putting yourself and others in danger if your car is fux0red.
I hope you do plan on fixing all of this because you are putting yourself and others in danger if your car is fux0red.
11-Oct-2004, 10:00 PM
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Originally posted by viper_2_4
I am unsure why body holes wouldn't be pass safety? for example, if there is a hole in a fenter (front or back) or even a rocker panel if it doesn't cause a leak into the passenger compartment or cause a lack of stuctural integrity (unlikely from a rocker panel or fender, specially front), why would it not be safe?? or would just look like crap....
I am unsure why body holes wouldn't be pass safety? for example, if there is a hole in a fenter (front or back) or even a rocker panel if it doesn't cause a leak into the passenger compartment or cause a lack of stuctural integrity (unlikely from a rocker panel or fender, specially front), why would it not be safe?? or would just look like crap....
Why wouldn't a hole in your car affect the over all structure of it?
it's the difference between solid metal and weakend metal. what would you want protecting you in an accident?
