merge8

Ok, So In Theory i want to know who will win....

My Civic CX

1.5L engine 70Hp/90Tourqe
Full 3" Exhaust
Short ram intake.
Lowered
SI Transmission
Weighing in at 2000Lbs

Vs

2010 Kia Soul

2.0L engine 150hp
Cold Air Intake..
Hulling a Sub
weighing 3500Lbs (+sub)


Im curioous who will win

31dev31

Threads like these makes me angry and want to punch babies.

merge8

why is that?

D.T.P

If you are driving stick and the kia is auto then you should pull on him, otherwise I don't think you will be close. Go to cayuga and find out 25$ test/tune days are there to help prevent street racing.

spike

I'm giving it to the Kia

MPR

It comes down to power to weight, basically.

Civic cx = 28.6lbs/hp

Kia Soul = 23.3lbs/hp

By pure power to weight, the kia has the edge...

However, the civic is standard and Kia is auto.

If the driver of the civic is good and can shift quickly and the clutch is good, I give the edge to the civic.

It would be close.


And I'm sorry but I had to comment on the 3" exhaust on the stock d-series....that made by day...haha.

Fr0z3N

what? I have a 3" on my d series

F8i

iTrader: (10)

3" exhaust on a non turbo d series is so special, it's retarded.

MPR

Yours is turbo'd. It benefits from 3" exhaust. A stock d-series does not.

Silver_EM

i have 8 inch exhaust! 1000 more hp.









no torque ...

spike

Just lose power insted.

Clean95d16

3 inch for the win! ive got 3' on my d series too as well boosted lol...

honestly thats a hard race, and again should be prove on the track...

merge8

Also Sorry i do have DC headers...

I have about 103 HP to the wheel..


and the soul is Standard aswell

id really like to settle this battle on the track... i feel that my Civic will pull much harder in 2nd gear... and thats where ill take the lead

MPR

^^So you have dyno'd it at 103whp?

If both cars are standard, it will be a close race and would come down to the driver in the end.

Good launch and very quick shifts at the right rpm will win it imo.

bengali548

its all about power to weight if my math is correct i believe the kia is going to take it out just bearly unfortunately and this is also assuming that both drivers know how to race

bengali548

woops my comments irellevant =(

Cynikal.Mindset

hahahaha

a 70hp at the flywheel car with 3" exhaust and a header dyno'd 103hp at the wheels....hahahahahahaha

F8i

iTrader: (10)

Since the cars are close to equal... I give it to the newer of the 2. Technology will win. If the computer, timing, and tuning is better(which most newer vehicles should be) it will win.

MPR

It has nothing to do with technology. It has everything to do with power to weight, power delivery, and the driver of each vehicle.

Since both are manual transmission cars, the power delivery is basically the same. Manual transmissions have barely changed at all in the past 20+ years. Therefore it boils down to the power to weight ratio and the drivers.

F8i

iTrader: (10)

Saying it has nothing to do with technology is a dumb thing to say.(<--kinda like that sentance)

It's not as easy as you make it out to be. VTEC... do you speak it? Power Band... Do you understand it? It's more than power to weight... Racing has so many factors, so many variables, you even go as far as to say aeronumatics(sp?) will change the out come of a race.

I remember watching a youtube video with 2 of the same civics racing. (spoon video) One has a block made by spoon, and one was a 'normal' type r. Both were B16B's, but the spoon block allowed the car to rev a bit further than other. This allowed Spoon civic to have a higher powerband for the hills, and eventually, won the race.

Technology is also a stupid thing to say, but in MY experience, technology wins more often than not. Anyone else get the song sung by Kif from Napoleian Dynomite in there head?