Buying a diesel
19-May-2007, 08:34 PM
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Diesel vehicles are generally more expensive to purchaes and maintain the regular gas vehicles. Diesel fuel isn't as cheap as it used to be either.
Personally, I would stick with a Civic, Corolla or Echo/Yaris if fuel effeciency was my concern.
Personally, I would stick with a Civic, Corolla or Echo/Yaris if fuel effeciency was my concern.
19-May-2007, 10:30 PM
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my main concern for a car is that i dont want high insurance and i dont want to be paying alot for gas, a diesel will last me about 2 weeks on gas compared to a normal car that will last me a week, plus diesel is cheaper than regluar gas and in 2-3 years the gas prices will be alot worse than they are now
20-May-2007, 01:08 AM
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Originally posted by DumbasSi
Diesel vehicles are generally more expensive to purchaes and maintain the regular gas vehicles. Diesel fuel isn't as cheap as it used to be either.
Personally, I would stick with a Civic, Corolla or Echo/Yaris if fuel effeciency was my concern.
Diesel vehicles are generally more expensive to purchaes and maintain the regular gas vehicles. Diesel fuel isn't as cheap as it used to be either.
Personally, I would stick with a Civic, Corolla or Echo/Yaris if fuel effeciency was my concern.
On the subject of better gas mileage, I highly doubt a Echo or Yaris gets 40-45 mpg average. Even if they did, your making a concession both to size of your vehicle in the name of fuel consumption. A diesel allows an individual to have a bigger vehicle for the same fuel consumption. The European Polo which I believe is the equivalent size to the Yaris/Echo gets something like 75mpg or something ridiculous like that. And don't get me started on hybrids. They're only good for around town and thats it. They're benefits are null and void on the highway. Plus, watch out for the 5000 dollar battery pack after a few years.
20-May-2007, 01:29 PM
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Ya i have heard that hybrids are more expensive even with the $4000 rebate, the batteries for them can cost between $8-12000 which will make the resale value go down alot and im going to buy a used diesel maybe a 2002-2003
20-May-2007, 02:41 PM
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the future belongs to gas-electric hybrids....we will see years from now. the battery replacement cost is more of a myth.....all hybrid batteries come with a 8-10 year comprehensive warranty....so if you buy a hybrid now and after all those years, the cost will definitely come down just because there will be a whole lot more hybrids out there (Ford/GM has said 40% of their fleet will be hybrids by 2015)
hybrid technology is also changing.....for eg. on the highway, the new camry is not running on gas alone....the motor is assisted by the electric mechanism. Honda has something similar...its call IMA i believe.
For canada, i doubt we will ever see a market for diesel cars. im not denying their utility and long mileage...just giving an alternative point of view. too much heat on global warming....the price of gas / diesel both inching up over time.....Ive been researching hybrids and trying to get a sense of how beneficial they are. Honestly, chances are you wont keep that car 8-10 years from now.
hybrid technology is also changing.....for eg. on the highway, the new camry is not running on gas alone....the motor is assisted by the electric mechanism. Honda has something similar...its call IMA i believe.
For canada, i doubt we will ever see a market for diesel cars. im not denying their utility and long mileage...just giving an alternative point of view. too much heat on global warming....the price of gas / diesel both inching up over time.....Ive been researching hybrids and trying to get a sense of how beneficial they are. Honestly, chances are you wont keep that car 8-10 years from now.
20-May-2007, 03:31 PM
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Im a college student i cant afford to buy new and even if i buy used their is no guarentee that the battery will last aslong as i have the car and i cant afford to buy a hybrid then having to spend lots of money on a battery
20-May-2007, 04:11 PM
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oh i didnt know you were a student...sorry if i missed that earlier on. whatever your budget allows man....go for a TDI in that case. but btw...according to research, hybrid batteries usually last much longer than their warranty period....they dont just die when the warranty ends.
i personally think that by the next decade..the price will be just a couple of thousand only.
so apart from VW...what other diesel cars are available out there?
i personally think that by the next decade..the price will be just a couple of thousand only.
so apart from VW...what other diesel cars are available out there?
20-May-2007, 04:30 PM
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Around here at Mac, a lot of students drive the older Benzes from the 80's. We're talking like 300D's. 300SDL's and so forth. Those are aren't really economical in true terms. They get between 25-30 mpg but their huge in terms of size. Either way, not good for a student. Beyond those, the mid 80's Volvo's which were diesel powered. Mid 80's BMW 324d's and 524td's which are fairly small. But those are obscure, niche cars that people really don't know about and the support for them is limited.
So really his choices are basically VW or Benz.
So really his choices are basically VW or Benz.
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