bruce fee

a conscience? he's wasting your time, the courts time, on our money. maybe he was high.

Cablerat

Yeah but my point is that he knew what he was doing was wrong, but gave me as much benefit as possible. Basically telling me to go to court cuz he aint showing up.. Bottom line is he had to do his job and hand out tickets...

bananax

I don't think someone who is thinking about going 150km/h is going to drive at 100km/h. if you want to debate at least try to use common sense instead of resorting to childesh comments.

btw reading comprehension is your friend

cibs

^^ yeah but the discussion is about the penalty for going 50km/h over the speed limit which is 100...

not trying to pick a side, just trying to clarify

bananax

People don't get pulled over for doing 120km / h, it was even said by the OPP at a point a few years ago when the debate to raise the speed limit to 120km/h was around.

and in my post I clearly said 120-150, it's common sense, if you don't want to use it then don't bother debating.

cibs

it's not common sense. you're changing the main crux of the debate... the law is for going 50 over the speed limit, not 30 over the speed limit... if 120 was the speed limit then 120 - 170 would be the numbers to use.

You just arbitrarily pulled 120 out of the air - there's no law saying you don't get a ticket doing 120.

People have and do get tickets for doing 120, you can get a ticket for doing 101 if a cop feels like it. They just don't get pulled over as often as people doing 135.

bananax

how common is it? I've never known anyone that has been pulled over for 120, nor have I ever been pulled over for 120, and if you really have an issue with the 150 Law, then go 140 or 145, I guess then you can say oh well in 50hours I coudl have travelled an extra 500km!

where will it stop? If you ask 10 people about how fast they can drive before getting pulled over I'm pretty confident you would get 120 out of 7 of them.

and your right, there is no law saying 120 is ok, but if you were around for the "raise the speed limit to 120" then you would know it's not just a random number that I pulled out of the air.

ERTW

i have passed cops doing 120-125 when they are doing 110.. no one seems to mind..

but going 150 when most people are doing 110-120 can potentially lead to accidents..

bruce fee

you started with the "childish remarks" did you not?

going an average of 90-110 will generally put you around 300km after travelling for 3 hours straight, while generally going an average of 140-160 will put you 300 after travelling for only 2 hours.

150 isn't some magic number that no one goes above. i've myself seen 3 cars on the 401 doing 170+ for what felt like a really long time to be pushing the cars like that.

i've experienced rides across the country and speeds in excess of 150km/h for an extended period of time.

i've mentioned here before, a cop was doing 150 with me for a long time on the highway, he eventually had enough of going so slow i guess he passed me.

ERTW

i think what we should do is use the HOV lane as a"fast lane" with sustained speeds in the 140-160 area.. there are many vehicles out there capable of these speeds.

however, the general speed limit should be kept at 100 aroudn the GTA

bananax

Thats great. I'm glad that you've experienced goign 170 and 150kph, the point is not the "150kph" if it really was then just go 140 instead, your problem is solved. the point is there has to be a "limit" to how fast people can drive and get away with paying a fine. Unfortunatly increasing fines and punishments doesn't stop the idiots who don't think they'll get caught. and obviously this was a political move more then one of saftey.

and I agree with this, its not going 150 that causes problems, its going 150 and having to slow down and pass people doing 120-100 that causes most of the issues.

I know people in Quebec are maniacs when they drive, but they utilize the left lane properly, at least when I drove through it, people would pass and merge back to the middle lane. Drivers here don't seem to like that concept

cibs

I definitely agree - but it's stupid that this political move does little to solve the real problem of people not knowing how to drive properly. Speeding alone doesn't cause death, speeding + bad driving = death. People doing 100 in the fast lane is a problem, people doing 75 in the slow lane is also a problem... people passing to the right of someone is also a problem.

If they enforced things like that more I think the highways would be much safer..

while still maintaining innocent until proven guilty somehow... instead of punishing people right away.

Cablerat

someone's learnt how to use Multi quote!!!

K20EF8

This is another joke. Why dont they actually do something usefull, im all about getting dangerous drivers of the road but come on, your going to cause all this trouble for someone whos driving 50 over on some deserted back road at 4am in the morning. How many accidents have been caused on our highways by speeders... not as many as you think. There is far more of a problem with people who weave in traffic, run red lights, fix hair, do makeup etc. Our speed limits are a goddamn joke, as someone pointed out previously its hard to keep a new car at 100 kph. With this law you cant even contest or appeal. Ontario....... home of the most crooked insurance companies in the world, 50 over gets you $2000+ tickets, modded cars are automatically street racers, ridiculous speed limits designed as cash grabs. Yet getting your license here is a walk in the park, half the damn people on our roads shouldnt even have a license. All leads back to the dollar, the more people with a license the more money the government/ministry makes.

Roll_outz

It's rediculious, But Why worries if We don't Speed..

Robb

iTrader: (1)

This law is a joke.. like many many other Ontario traffic laws..

And people still eat and talk on the cell phone while driving.

bananax

I read a funny story, a guy got a ticket for going 117kph, the judge told him that 1km over is worthy of a ticket, so him and a friend drove side by side on the 401 doing 100kph they caused a traffic jam 4km long and got a ticket for obstructing traffic. hahahha

Pyro

the one thing i don't agree with is that it's 50 over, yes i know they have to decide on a cut off speed but if you're on the dull stretch of airport road 3 lanes wide with the 50km/h zone and you do 100km/h how is it justifiable to receive a harsher punishment than someone on a 3 lane stretch of the 401 doing 140?

Not to mention this whole thing is just an attempted witch hunt on modified cars. Burn the witches without trial....impound the cars without trial. <sarcasm> Glad to see we're going back to our roots </sarcasm>

Cynikal.Mindset

there is a reason its a 50km zone...why do y'all care so much about this? dont do 50 over and there isnt a problem

oh and on a side note my dad got pulled over for doin 120 the other night on hwy 11 north at 12am

bbarbulo

iTrader: (2)

look, the law is bull****... but eh... whaddaya gonna do about it? don't like it... move somewhere else. personally I don't care, I don't speed. but I kinda feel like we're living in a society where laws/enforcement is just out of control and there is nothing we can do about it. and again, it becomes a circular argument for me... if I can't do anything about it, then I don't worry myself with it. as for the speed limit being raised, I disagree. 100 kph is not bad, and it gives cops discretion over when to hand out tickets and when not to.