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Old 23-Aug-2005, 01:18 AM
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back in the civic game

well after almost a year without a civic, iv finally purchased another one......its a white 93 civic si, motor has 470,000 and the body needs a major overhaulin.......but hey cant go wrong for 800 bucks......lol, i was going to finance a brand new car but thought it out and i dont really feel like being obligated to be paying 500 a month in car payments plus with insurance ontop of that.....anyways i have a budget of 8,000 to spend on this car and since now i have a double car garage i can do most of the work myself....plans for the car include.........new white paint job done by myself, carbon fibre hood,mugen lip,clear white tails,spoon mirrors......motor wise i plan on swapping in a h22 with lsd tranny and most likely going to turbo it, yes i know h22 and turbo dont go, yada,yada i shoul go gsr turbo, but i wanna b different.....anyways ill try and get some pics of the car when it arrives on wednesday, and step by step as i go through each step.
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Old 23-Aug-2005, 01:32 AM
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haha... i actually liked your idea of turbo h22.... i had that idea too when i had my 92 si hatch a few months back.... i was even gonna give it a ghetto name like "Turbo-H" or "T-22" haha..

well good luck with the project... and welcome back to the civics
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Old 23-Aug-2005, 02:22 AM
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Re: back in the civic game

Originally posted by coreyhayman
well after almost a year without a civic, iv finally purchased another one......its a white 93 civic si, motor has 470,000 and the body needs a major overhaulin.......but hey cant go wrong for 800 bucks......lol, i was going to finance a brand new car but thought it out and i dont really feel like being obligated to be paying 500 a month in car payments plus with insurance ontop of that.....anyways i have a budget of 8,000 to spend on this car and since now i have a double car garage i can do most of the work myself....plans for the car include.........new white paint job done by myself, carbon fibre hood,mugen lip,clear white tails,spoon mirrors......motor wise i plan on swapping in a h22 with lsd tranny and most likely going to turbo it, yes i know h22 and turbo dont go, yada,yada i shoul go gsr turbo, but i wanna b different.....anyways ill try and get some pics of the car when it arrives on wednesday, and step by step as i go through each step.
I think your hopes of being different and having a budget of 8k just went out the door..
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Old 23-Aug-2005, 02:34 AM
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goodluck with the new project man
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Old 23-Aug-2005, 06:57 AM
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Re: Re: back in the civic game

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I think your hopes of being different and having a budget of 8k just went out the door..
nah i think this is very obtainable........

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-body work and paint done by myself $800
-front lip 110
-rear lip 110
-carbon fibre hood 500
-duckbill spoiler 200

motor
-h22 with lsd tranny 2500
-mounts 250
-custom turbo kit (most likely homemade kit) well say 3,000 to build a ncie kit
-and about 500ish to have the thing properly tuned......i know im missing a few thigns but it wont be far off
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Old 23-Aug-2005, 07:07 AM
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make up your damn mind already

domestic - import - domestic - import - domestic - import

is the stang gone?
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Old 23-Aug-2005, 07:20 AM
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good luck with it, can't wait to see the updates to this car if they really happen
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Old 23-Aug-2005, 08:12 AM
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if your not gonna build the h22 for boost dont do it.

get an ls, build it properly ie. sleeves, pistons, rods, bearings cams, mild port/polish. then turbo it.

boost is no joke, it only takes one fault to make a mess.

a boosted built LS will yield anywhere from 250-400 WHP with some nice tuning.

H22 is nice if your gonna call it a day after that...but trust me...nothing like the sound of a BOV..
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Re: Re: Re: back in the civic game

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nah i think this is very obtainable........

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-h22 with lsd tranny 2500
-mounts 250
Find it hard to believe you'd get a legit motor / tranny with LSD for $2500. More likely $3000+ w/LSD. Does that include the ecu?

$250 for the cheapest **** mounts ever.

What about shift linkage?
Building the harness yourself?
hoses, belts, clamps, wires?
New timing belt, water pump, clutch, new spark/wires/cap/rotor?
Broken, malfunctioning sensors?
Driveshafts to fit?
Swapping to non-PS rack, or you gonna run PS rack? Cuz that sucks ***, you'll get air in the lines and get steering play. Trust, I did that..

Good luck, you'll be looking @ $4000+ more realistically.

I did the swap myself, building the harness, customzing integra shafts, everything possible to save money and still hit 4000.
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Old 23-Aug-2005, 09:11 AM
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A bit off topic Cablerat, but given that pressure is supplied by a PS pump why would you get air in the PS lines?

Given that a PS system is essentially air tight minus the atmospheric resevoir I don't see how air could be introduced to the system save for cavitation of the PS pump. My technical mind enquires how this is possible, do you mind explaining further?
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Old 23-Aug-2005, 09:52 AM
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nice find....and for $800 you cant go wrong....keep us up to date on your project
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Old 23-Aug-2005, 10:02 AM
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Originally posted by trackhack
A bit off topic Cablerat, but given that pressure is supplied by a PS pump why would you get air in the PS lines?

Given that a PS system is essentially air tight minus the atmospheric resevoir I don't see how air could be introduced to the system save for cavitation of the PS pump. My technical mind enquires how this is possible, do you mind explaining further?
You have to remove the Resevoir system and the pump altogether because there is just NO room for it to fit without custom brackets. The idea is you take the in and out lines and make a closed loop on the PS rack. Overtime, your clamps can give out and air will get in. I'm trying to recall the swap from like 3 years ago, but I remmeber overtime I had problems with the PS rack. To top it off, just having a PS rack with PS makes steering much harder than a regular non ps rack.
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Old 23-Aug-2005, 10:05 AM
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You have to remove the Resevoir system and the pump altogether because there is just NO room for it to fit without custom brackets. The idea is you take the in and out lines and make a closed loop on the PS rack. Overtime, your clamps can give out and air will get in.
Ahhhh right, forgot about the lack of space for the pump/resevoir. It makes sense now. Thanks for the follow up

Excuse the thread jack guys, carry on..
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Old 23-Aug-2005, 10:09 AM
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Ahhhh right, forgot about the lack of space for the pump/resevoir. It makes sense now. Thanks for the follow up

Excuse the thread jack guys, carry on..
no worries..

And in general, $800 for a car with a rotted body and half a million kms is not a deal AT all.
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Old 23-Aug-2005, 11:26 AM
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Tell me you didn't sell your Stang man??

Sounds like a nice project.
I too need a Civic for a beater.
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Old 23-Aug-2005, 12:04 PM
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Re: Re: Re: back in the civic game

Originally posted by coreyhayman
nah i think this is very obtainable........

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-h22 with lsd tranny 2500
-mounts 250
-custom turbo kit (most likely homemade kit) well say 3,000 to build a ncie kit
-and about 500ish to have the thing properly tuned......i know im missing a few thigns but it wont be far off
250 for h22a mounts? Home made with hockey pucks or what? H22a with LSD for 2500 (stolen prices). Who's building your harness for you and etc? How about ignition, driveshafts, suspension work?...oh yah 8k
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Old 23-Aug-2005, 04:06 PM
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just do a K series swap and call it a day or get a full LS swap, go with forged pistons and rods wit ARP hardware and boost it to 350whp with a proper tune.
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Old 23-Aug-2005, 04:21 PM
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umm.. the car has half a million kms on it.. where is your budget for ball joints and otehr crap that will be useless on a car this badly used up?
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Old 23-Aug-2005, 05:15 PM
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yeah, may want to consider Energy Suspension's full polyurethane bushing kit to tighten it up too.

guys, the prices aren't far off at all

H22A mounts for EG $249
JDM H22A engine with LSD: $2800

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Old 23-Aug-2005, 09:54 PM
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ya h22's can be found cheap nowadays, not really much demand for them, but these guys are also right i need to add a bit more money to my list for axles and such, i wanna build this whole car myself from paint to motor
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