bengali548

lets not talk looks

im looking for off the line acceleration

weight to power

reliability (pretty sure i already know :P

chipped the TT is 260 hp and 297 ft/lb but thats also turbo hows about the s2000 if it was chipped

not looking for heavy mods i've always been a torque fan and i know the s2000 cant compare torque wise but the tt is heavier (i think)

lets get some reviews and flames going !

MPR

Which year tt and which engine? the older ones were 1.8 turbo or 3.2 V6 I believe. Can't really chip the s2000. They respond better to bolt-ons and proper dyno tuning, like most honda engines...

bengali548

the 1.8t the same ones found on jettas i believe

did a quick check s2000= 2800 pounds

tt= 3200 pounds

big difference but even bigger engine differences

MPR

My choice would be S2000, hands down.

I'll post up a spec comparison shortly...

HabaneroRed06Si

Are you talking about buying these cars brand new? You also comparing the wrong cars. A upscale roadster cannot compare to a downhill champion.

Why not choose a 370z over a s2000. That would make more sense.

MPR

^I think you're under-estimating the S2000...

HabaneroRed06Si

Really? It's one of my favorite cars. The only 2.0 to produce 240 hp? I may have not put the right words to make my thoughts.

Heck, I still consider trading my 06 si for a 00-02 S2000.

Mugenn.civic.09

iTrader: (1)

get an ap2 and sell me your steering wheel.
seriously.
no i really do mean it.. lol think of it as an instant rebate

MPR

Haha, well you made it sound like the tt was a class above and much better... Just the way you worded it I guess.

Performance wise, they are well matched. Luxury wise, the tt is nicer I'm sure.

bengali548

I should have been more specific in the OP

i'm thinking about getting a car for the summer I'm still undecided wether I want to drive this car all year round so I'm looking at cars

I don't really have a budget in mind I'm still in the window shopping phase but i don't want to spend more than 20k

mr2 is WAYYYY to slow (sorry MPR)
mustangs i'm still considering but gas will be a huge issue if I drive it all year round
s2000 can't drive it in the winter but there's a 500$ crx somewhere that can fix that
tt's have some reliability issues and are a bit pricey but awd is never bad
the g35/37 is a ballers car from what I heard and WAYY too much to maintain and insure (can anyone approve or disprove me on this cuz I'm not too sure)
350z.... I was told Nissan has MAJOR reliability issues and maintenance is through the roof

MPR

Your talking about s2000's and audi TT's, then you say an MR2 is WAY too slow???

You're HUGELY under-estimating a MK2 (2nd gen) MR2 turbo. Stock, they weight the same, if not, a bit less then an S2000, and have near identicle power to weight ratio with the combination of a mid-engine rwd layout. They can easily be made an absolute weapon with very few modifications. Becarefull what you say until you've looked at all the facts.

bengali548

I don't know much about the mr2 gens but I know the 02 had I THINK 160 hp with 140 ft/lb


I don't know about power to weight but I'm sure you can see why I assumed the mr2 is slower when talking about 200 hp+ cars

one of the main things holding me back from getting the 02 mr2 was the power looks are stunning

btw every car I mentioned I'm looking between the 2000-2006 models

HabaneroRed06Si

MR2 slow? Wow. MR2 is probably the only car with the most potential. Have you seen these cars with twin turbo's? Would lick any car on the road. I want these so bad as a summer ride. Especially for the murcielago kit lol

I personally never heard of reliability issues with the TT. Only issue is, if there is a problem, expect to kill a paycheck.

You are right on the maintenance on G35/37/350z. My buddy cries everytime he hits the gas station because of how often he needs to refill. They are probably the worst cars on the planet for fuel efficiency.

I think the best thing for you to consider is reliability and which cars hold their value. Those being either Toyota or Honda, which after 48 months maintain 45% of their purchase price. Go with the s2000, pick up a cheap EG hatch and call it a day. Probably the only choice that will get you laid and still have money in your pocket to pay your rent/mortgage.

MPR

Here's a comparison between the audi TT 1.8T and Honda S2000 (both year model 2000).

(I love doing these charts...hehe )

2000 Audi TT 1.8T (FWD and AWD):

Curb Weight: ~3000lbs (FWD), ~3200lbs (AWD)
Weight Distribution (front/rear): +/-55/45
Engine: 1.8L 20valve 4 cylinder, turbocharged, single or twin intercoolers.
HP: 178 at 5500rpm (FWD), or 222 at 5900rpm (AWD only)
TQ: 173 at 1950-5000rpm (FWD), or 207 at 2200-5500rpm (AWD only)
Drive Layout: Front engine front wheel drive or Front engine all wheel drive
Transmission: 5M, 6M, 6A, 6DSG
Power to weight: 119hp/ton (FWD 178hp version) or 139hp/ton (AWD 222hp version)


2000 Honda S2000:

Curb Weight: ~2800lbs
Weight Distribution (front/rear): 50/50
Engine: 2.0L 16valve 4 cylinder DOHC with VTEC, Naturally aspirated
HP: 237 at 8300rpm
TQ: 153 at 7500rpm
Drive Layout: Front engine rear wheel drive
Transmission: 6M
Power to weight: 169hp/ton


The power to weight and weight distribution speaks for itself. S2000 FTW!

MPR

Ahh that's why you said that it was slow. The MK3 or 3rd gen MR2 or also known as the MR-S, used the base engine from the celica, corolla and matrix at the time, which was a 1.8L VVTi 16 valve DOHC 4 cylinder engine that made around 130hp or so. Yeah, they weren't real quick, but the handled awesome. You could put them in the same category as the mazda miata and such...

But the 2nd gen MR2 turbo was a whole different beast. lol

MPR

The MK2 never came with twin turbos, only the single turbo 3SGTE engine (2.0L). Still discustingly potent with 245hp out of the box in japan (only 200whp in northamerica...). But with very few tweaks... that number easily climbs past 300hp+!

And I completely agree. S2000, not only for performance or looks but for unequal reliability and fuel mileage. It's got the whole package.

REN69

Ever go to any track events?? I see nicely modded s2k's killing everything in sight at pretty much every event I've been to... don't see any TT's at the track but I tell you that girl I saw driving one the other day looked pretty hot in hers.

D.T.P

I'm sure its just the same 20v in the TT as jettas/golfs. I've been around those cars for a while now and let me tell you that they aren't that reliable. And if you think you can make the TT 260whp with a chip...good luck. I know for a fact that the minuscule turbos on the VWs or audis don't make much power. Infact the well known 14b turbo is bigger than the vw/audi. Though the TT may have a bigger turbo but even then the engines can't take much power. The 20v are weak for the price you pay. And to top it all off have fun finding a place to tune it, unless you are happy with the generic c2 chip.
Now the s2k on the other hand is easier to work on, is more reliabe than the TT. Less likely to have some absurd electrical problem and overall just well built. It may seem that I'm biased towards hondas but I've had experience with those engines and I would recommend to stay clear.

hmong337

I've owned a 93 turbo mr2 and currently own a 91 na. the turbos with $500 in mods eat s2000's all day long buddy.

MPR

^indeed. Mid-rear + turbo ftw!