imported_Gatsby

Hi.
I'm looking for some info on A4s. Which one has more potential for future upgrades? 1.8T or 2.8 V6?

I have seen 1.8Ts with 310 WHP and 345 TQ, with no internal mods and just a turbo upgrade and exhaust and stuff like that...

Does anyone know anything about these cars?

coreyhayman

1.8t has more potential imo. anything that comes stick turbo'd has tons of potential and are easily make fast, boost controller,upgraded turbo etc.

Raziel

1.8T is a fine engine. You're right... with a cash it can be FAAAST I'd get taht instead of the v6...

punkindrublic

none of the above in my opinion

imported_Gatsby

Why not? A4 not good or sumthinn?

DJTre

yeah, a4's are good.

go with the 1.8t

punkindrublic

made by vw... vw can't do wiring... i know to many people who've had rather substancial problems with theres.. i'd rather stick with the tried and true honda... or a big *** V8

imported_audiophilia

Yeah, they're fantastic cars. No brainer, really. The new style is superb.

I've driven both. The 1.8 is woefully underpowered. Can you say 'chip'. 2.8 is way smoother, rea;;y powerful.

Dunno, tho, chipping a 60G car to get some power is fukked to me...Audi should stock that thing with a 6 only and sell it for the same as a 1.8.

Then chip the 6

imported_premium plus

youll be paying out the *** if and when anything goes wrong with it.

audi's are nice, but terribly overpriced imo.

imported_loudsubz

stay away from the 1.8T is what I hear when i did some research on the car, I was looking at buying one but this is what an "Audi Mechanic" had to say about the 1.8T engine.

I also hear mixed reviews from audi owners, def not a car I would want to own

imported_Gatsby

Man, thats too bad....
I'm considering a newer and bigger car for next spring. I want AWD and plenty of power. I also want some luxary and a good resale value. Suburas are nice, but very simple. The resale value on them is also pretty low.
Audis have always being my favorite. And not every gino kid owns one (Hint: BMW). They have always being great cars, even before VW bought the company.

Now, someone tell me what would be wrong with a 98 A4 2.8 QUATTRO, Tiptronic, fully loaded, leather interior, full serive history, 123,000 Kms, for $15,800 ???

Thats about the same money you would have to pay for a 99-00 SIR, but without AWD, 2.8 V6, tiptronic, leather interior, and most important of all, SOME RESPECT!
I'm tired of being judged, because I drive a Civic.
God damn people always look down on you, as soon as they hear you have a Civic...

Anyways, I think A4s are very decent, and I especially like the pre 2002 body style....

imported_loudsubz

heres some info on both cars:

A4 1.8T

Nice looking car with LOTS of problems
What things have gone wrong with the car?
Two of the four front control arms making lots of noise - replaced ($400 each) at 80,000 miles. Right Front wheel bearing failed at 82,000 ($200), Electrical issue in instrument cluster ($900) at 78,000, emission control charcoal canister failed at 75,000 miles ($500). Radiator overflow container went bad at 70,000.
General comments?
The A4 is a great looking, comfortable car, with good performance. However, I will never buy an Audi again that is not new or under warranty. Audi's lack of quality is the reason they are so reasonably priced compared to comparable used BMW's. Of the 14 cars I have owned this A4 depreciated faster and cost much more to operate. A good friend of mine is having similar issues with an A6 4.2 with 80,000 miles.


What things have gone wrong with the car?
Timing belt broke at 79k miles, service interval is at 105k miles. Blown engine that I'm responsible for because of Audi's mistake.

Power windows, both, broke down. $300 a piece to fix the small plastic piece. Around 60k miles when this happened.

Driver airbag light came on, diagnostics showed a broken sensor. $450 to fix.
General comments?
Comfortable car that handles well and is ergonomic and somewhat luxurious. Great car, but not reliable at all. A lot of small details on top of the things listed above, in general a money pit. I think I'll stay away from Audi and VW in the future.

Then 2.8

What things have gone wrong with the car?
Water pump 47,000 miles
check engine light 51,000
sunroof - 52,000
new radiator - 65,000
steering fluid leak - 65,000.
General comments?
Maintenance of this car is a nightmare especially out of warranty.

Parts are custom and very expensive.

This car handles very well.

Acceleration for this car is moderate even with a 5-speed.

Car is comfortable for 2 people or maybe 3.

4 wheel drive system works well on wet roads.

Car struggles on snow without snow tires.

Audi dealership is worst I have ever seen


What things have gone wrong with the car?
Engine imploded at 55,000 miles. Cost of this repair $9,000.00. The car has never been the same. Eight months later the transmission needed to be replaced, at a cost of $7,000. Brakes have been replaced 6 times over the 5 years I have owned the car. Many of the recurring problems were diagnosed and repaired under warranty. To repair simple things is costly, for example to replace the generator the entire front of the engine has to be removed.
General comments?
Never buy an Audi A4 out of warranty.

imported_Gatsby

Holly sh*t!! Thats serious reliability issues!! So these problems are common? God damn!

How about the pre-owned, Certified ones?

imported_exo

save for a next year and get a used Audi S4

SpikeyLee

The 1.8T can easily gain a ton of horsepower simply by chipping.

As for reliability issues, unfortunately yeah they're there. Check out Consumer Reports or magazines like that, they'll give you all the info you need about all this stuff.

Nova_Dust

People who look down on others base on their material belongings are shallow. And I do not think one should be mad or feel even remotely upset if you have been judged by a shallow person.

A car may reflect your financial status, but it does not reflect who you are completely. If one thinks an A4 can bring him or her some respect, god knows what else he or she needs when the bigger needs come? I believe we all strive for the best we could, and I still believe we should live for ourselves and live by our own standards; not what others thinks.

I do not mean to lecture or anything, just saw this subject and had the feeling to elaborate a little.

therein60mins

the car's DIRRRRRRRRRRTY...... audi a4's are pimp still.. my boy owns a black one.... he's had it for over 2 years and no problems so i dunno if those facts loudsubz put up are fully true about a4's... 1.8t's more potent... 2.8's are actually slower... this i know koz he actually owns a white 2.8 v6... ....

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imported_BlazeInEk

I was at one time seriously looking to buy one. 1.8T is a little slower and a little cheaper stock but has more potential for mods. Nice looking cars but are not the best new because they are expensive. Not the best used because if something goes wrong they are expensive to fix. There are some common problems, they seem to develop electrical problems. Check Lemonaid, the used car guide, I think it's on the net but it will be in the library for sure. Anyway, after researching I decided against Audi, for now. If you are looking for something like that used BMW's are rated high.

imported_loudsubz

There not "facts" there testiments from different owners who actually own the car, not what others "dream up" or "****** the word from their buddies" on the net.

From my research it seems about 1/2 to 3/4 audi owners are not happy/

imported_kane2k

Audi, and by extension Volkswagen, make average cars and sell them at inflated prices. The fact that you can pick up a car that was 50000ish in 98 for 15000 should tell you a lot about how people view the car in terms of its functionality and quality, and also how much some people are willing to pay for a car to be "pretty".

Tuning VW/Audi's is also really expensive. Unless you plan on designing your own kits and using junkyard parts, the upgrade turbo kits and parts are very pricy since it's a small market.