zippo_kid

i thought they didnt bother you if you were going a max of 12 over...

Solarian

+1 I'd likely end up jailed for telling an officer to go f* himself
Fight it, a 5km/h over ticket is an insult to you, the taxpayers and common sense.

Midori

Well I didn't mean it like that lol. Almost every police service in Canada is trying to gain a partnership with the community and its tickets like these that stop this from ever happening. Also I just disagree with the police giving speeding ticket all together and think we should have a more simplistic system that is run by a different service like parking enforcement. You can hate them all you want and it doesn t affect society.

FiveO

Check out the annual surveys where the "community" is given a chance to speak its mind on policing matters. In most of those surveys, concerns about speeding and aggressive driving rank virtaully equal to concerns about violent crime.

In urban areas, and Steeles and Leslie is an urban area, it's tickets like this that have much of the community cheering. The best way to avoid them is to drive at the speed limit and not blithely assume that you are somehow "safe" until you reach some magically assumed threshold of 10 or 15 or 20 over the limit..

FiveO

From Peel's 2005 survey at http://www.peelpolice.on.ca/News/ecms.aspx/$prp/publications/SurveyResults.doc


¨Community Problems - The most serious community problems of greatest concern to citizens are:
1.Aggressive Driving (60 per cent)
2.Break-ins/thefts from homes (44 per cent)
3.Youth Gang Activity (43 per cent)
4.Drug-related crime (33 per cent)
5.Loitering and noise (31 per cent)
6.Drugs in Schools (29 percent)

¨Traffic Problems - The most serious traffic problems of greatest concern to citizens are:
1.Aggressive driving (tailgating, unsafe lane changes) (83 per cent)
2.Speeding (78 per cent)
3.Disobey traffic signs and signals (78 per cent)
4.School zones – speeding (43 per cent)
5.Impaired driving (29 per cent)
6.Unsafe vehicles (29 per cent)

spike

They can give you a ticket for being 1 km over the speed limit if they really want to be a dick about it.

Midori

And who are the participants in this survey? random joe blows (the community)? no, they are people that have a vested interest. With that this survey mean nothing more than of the people that chose to participate 78% of them disprove of speeding. Also speeding is not qualified in the survey and the topic is 5km so your argument isn't well supported.

Most of us learn at a very early age that the police are a fearsome group that even are parents are scared off and that fear is passed down. As a result an sense of us vs them becomes stronger and the police can not deny it. FiveO if you are police officer or is interested in becoming one, surely you have studied Policing and are aware of its current flaws.... I know I did.

FiveO

I remember the survey quite well because I received one myself at the time. Speeding was only one of many policing subjects in the survey, so it can hardly be seen as a vehicle only for anti-speeding advocates.

From the intro to the survey -> In October, 2005, 8,105 questionnaires were randomly distributed to Brampton and Mississauga households. 875 citizens responded with completed surveys providing a solid sampling of opinions with a return rate of 11 per cent. Many additional comments were provided by respondents accentuating their enthusiasm and appreciation for this type of community outreach involvement. Responses and findings for the total sample group can be considered accurate within +/- 3.3 per cent at the 95 per cent confidence level.


Speeding is qualified. It is quite simply defined as exceeding the speed limit.


Us vs them applies only between adversarial groups. In most cases cops don't become potential adversaries until the moment that you decide to break whatever law you deem to be inconvenient.

Any apparatus can be improved on. That doesn't mean the whole apparatus should be disregarded until it is considered perfect, especially when that apparatus is one so critical to the public well-being.

red93eghatch

what would oyu say when you go to court for something like 5km over?

95CoupeSi

if i got a ticket for 5km over id just pay it y waste a whole day of work just to fight 28 bucks?

Mugenn.civic.09

iTrader: (1)

Holy fckin thread resurrection batman.... read when the last post was!?
10-29-2008, 04:40 AM

..............But, i would take it to court... moving violation screws u in insurance... if cop doesnt show ur good 2 go.

miss_jess

iTrader: (2)

if convicted your insurance premium will increase.

refer to post above.

95CoupeSi

my insurance is already up i got pulled over in my g/fs moms durango doing 73 in a 50 and the cop dropped it to 15 over and i just paid it. my g/f lives 3 hours away and i was going home 3 days after the ticket so i didnt want to set a court date and have to make a 3 hour drive to go to court after the cop already dropped it

miss_jess

iTrader: (2)

ok cool, but you should still always try to fight a ticket.

samars

I hate to hear these things....there are so many more important fish to fry in this city than nailing people going 5 km over the limit. GEEEEEEZ!

devingodard

ya and they can give u a ticket for 1 under if they wanted lol. It all depends on the area and the cop that day. if u got the day to burn take it in to court. i love taking my stupid tickets in and watching the jp shake his head at the ticket as he reads it andeither drops it or lowers it

trunk_munkey

Thread jacking aside. Speeding is a chargeable offense 5 km or more doesn't matter, period. As for the "better things to do" believe it or not there are alot of different types of "cops". Traffic is just doing their job. Speed if you choose, I do and **** happens. If your caught man up and pay. The courts are there to deal with the legitimate issues. F*!kers like this make it so people with a real case have to deal with a strained system.

devingodard

Actuallly jps and judeges are assigned their dayss in "traffic court" to so they are there to deal with the stiupid tickets or with the tickets that the person wasnt doing anything wrong. So strain on the system i dont know? If it was such a problem then the system to fight the tickets would be in place, since when has the government ever done anything for the average person that was a pain in the but for them.