Discussion thread: Aftermarket coilovers, springs and shocks
#41
im in the same boat. i need full coilovers and im shopping around. premium dude makes a valid point in my opinion. there all from taiwan and prolly all very close in manufacturing standards. personally i like the look of the F2's and there the new thing out there, but ive heard great things about PIC's and there 300 dollars cheaper. ive road omni's i think there junk. unless your spending grands, i think the 1000 dollar coils are all the same.
#42
Personally, I think the f2 autolife coils and AMR coils are very good, and if not one of the best on the market in terms of price for our Honda's.
I love the Kw's my cousin just put on his volvo, but for me realistically putting a set of $2500 ++ coilovers onto a car thats blackbook value is a whoping $3500 isn't feasable.
The F2 autolife coils will get u the drop and response you want at a reasonable price.
The only thing i've been trying to find out is what kind of oil they use in their shocks, and are they able to be used yr round! With our crazy winters and all!
I love the Kw's my cousin just put on his volvo, but for me realistically putting a set of $2500 ++ coilovers onto a car thats blackbook value is a whoping $3500 isn't feasable.
The F2 autolife coils will get u the drop and response you want at a reasonable price.
The only thing i've been trying to find out is what kind of oil they use in their shocks, and are they able to be used yr round! With our crazy winters and all!
#43
@Scott : Keep me up to date, what works out for you.
@DjTrini : Yeah brudda, I'm witch ya, difficult situation because truthfully I found Function & Form Type I for 700.00 OBO, and I really just want to give the dude 600 and get it over worth.
Also have this other dude, selling Omni coils, 2 are second gen and 2 are first gen for 600.
Like always, thanks for the input so far guys, HELP ME! Haha.
My car's currently at the bodyshop, if I wasn't tight on cash, I would have different plans of course.
@DjTrini : Yeah brudda, I'm witch ya, difficult situation because truthfully I found Function & Form Type I for 700.00 OBO, and I really just want to give the dude 600 and get it over worth.
Also have this other dude, selling Omni coils, 2 are second gen and 2 are first gen for 600.
Like always, thanks for the input so far guys, HELP ME! Haha.
My car's currently at the bodyshop, if I wasn't tight on cash, I would have different plans of course.
#44
As bbarbulo pointed out, many of the best dampers come from Western Europe such as Ohlin, Aragosta, etc. But Japan has its fair share of great manufacturers as well such as Zeal.
Obviously not everyone can drop $4000 for Zeals, but in essence you do get what you pay for.
There are some pretty decent suspension setups to be had in the $1500-$2000 range however, which might be more suitable to your needs, if you take a look around. Anything below that range and you enter junk territory.
So what options do you have? I can think of two very nice coilovers that you may wish to look into.
One would be the Buddy Club Race Spec, which should run you around $2000. Buddy Club has almost two decades of racing experience, and original Buddy Club springs to complement the individually valved shocks.
The other coilover that comes to mind is one that isn't fairly common in North America. It is the Stance GR+, and while it only runs about $1800, it has some great features like the inverted monotube design, and extra thick shell casing. This coilover is 100% made in Japan, and is very popular among the Nissan and Subaru guys, with tons of racing experience under its belt.
So, while buying top of the line suspension is ideal, because you are guaranteed the best in R&D, and manufacturing standards, the midpack coilovers from reputable manufacturers have quite a lot to offer.
Obviously not everyone can drop $4000 for Zeals, but in essence you do get what you pay for.
There are some pretty decent suspension setups to be had in the $1500-$2000 range however, which might be more suitable to your needs, if you take a look around. Anything below that range and you enter junk territory.
So what options do you have? I can think of two very nice coilovers that you may wish to look into.
One would be the Buddy Club Race Spec, which should run you around $2000. Buddy Club has almost two decades of racing experience, and original Buddy Club springs to complement the individually valved shocks.
The other coilover that comes to mind is one that isn't fairly common in North America. It is the Stance GR+, and while it only runs about $1800, it has some great features like the inverted monotube design, and extra thick shell casing. This coilover is 100% made in Japan, and is very popular among the Nissan and Subaru guys, with tons of racing experience under its belt.
So, while buying top of the line suspension is ideal, because you are guaranteed the best in R&D, and manufacturing standards, the midpack coilovers from reputable manufacturers have quite a lot to offer.
#45
i appreciate the help from all you people. Most of my friends use eibach sportline and say that they sag a little too much over time. I personally like the smoothest ride possible, i mean i'm not in F-1 so a super stiff spring will do me no good. keep shooting out the answers.
#50
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i ran oem struts for 4 years w/ the sportlines ('02), no leaking, no failure, no shytty ride
i'd suggest it for the rears, no need for fronts imo with the mcpherson setup
a stronger (or the addition of) rear sway bar would also help
Neuspeed made a nice one, or even a 19mm off an SiR
i'd suggest it for the rears, no need for fronts imo with the mcpherson setup
a stronger (or the addition of) rear sway bar would also help
Neuspeed made a nice one, or even a 19mm off an SiR
#51
eibach springs
how much does the eibach springs pro kit usually go for? im kinda looking into buying them but i dont want to get ripped off...and how are the ride with them? my other choice was to get tein springs, do they ride better?
#58
I can't really comment on the springs you listed, but personally, I would recommend H&R Sport springs. I had them on my old 98 and they were great IMO. The drop was very nice looking and the ride was great too. Stiffer then stock obviously, but nothing too stiff. I had them with my stock shocks for approximately 1 year before I replaced them with Koni's.
As you can see by the list, the Tein's have the softest spring rate. They will ride the softest and be the most forgiving with your stock shocks.
Spring rates
99-00 SiR - 201F/99.8R (P/P)
H&R OE - 280F/190R (P/P)
H&R Sport - 330F/280R (P/P)
Eibach ProKit - 290F/190R (P/P
Eibach Sportline - 310F/275R (P/P)
Tein S. Tech - 235F/140R
As you can see by the list, the Tein's have the softest spring rate. They will ride the softest and be the most forgiving with your stock shocks.
Spring rates
99-00 SiR - 201F/99.8R (P/P)
H&R OE - 280F/190R (P/P)
H&R Sport - 330F/280R (P/P)
Eibach ProKit - 290F/190R (P/P
Eibach Sportline - 310F/275R (P/P)
Tein S. Tech - 235F/140R
#60
Honestly, grab a manual for ten bucks and do it yourself!! You will have 18 bolts in total to remove to get it done. get a 14mm 17mm 10mm socket an extension, and a rubber hammer just in case. Its not a bad job at all, and once youve done it once, you'll feel soo much better. If you play with hondas long enough, you'll eventually end up doing it, so start now! BUT if you want to take it to a shop, you'll probably spend 250-350.