imported_Turbo-D

http://www.torontocivics.com/tccforu...hreadid=147991

Your running a larger displacement motor, Just a thought. Goodluck.

zeeman

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unfortunately he wouldn't be eligable to be run in the hot rod class b/c a 1.6L was offered in the 2000 civics....doesn't matter that his car originally came with a 1.6L SOHC, only the displacement matters. Of course you could always take it to a ford dealership and tell them you've got an integra 1.8L engine in it so they'll run it as a hot rod....that worked for me...lol.

imported_Turbo-D

My car only has a Turbo, but the tech said its no longer a factory spec motor, so there is no issue in classifying it as a hotrod. It all depends on where you take it to get done i suppose.

zeeman

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ya i guess so.
I went to canadian tire for my first etest and they ran it as a regular civic and said they couldn't do it as a hot rod b/c it was still a 1.6L...besides, thats what i remember the rules were from when i took the ontario drive clean class back in 2003....but who knows maybe they're different now.

imported_Turbo-D

who's really going to check? Like i said it all depends on who runs your test. I'd stay away from Canadian Tire.

zeeman

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well, canadian tire checked my car (i went there b/c it was the closet place to my house, but i don't ever recommend going to CT either)....so thats why i went to a ford dealership the next time, i changed nothing, just went to ford and told them i had an integra 1.8L engine in it, and they ran it as a hot rod and it passed with ease.

Nova_Dust

I am due for emission this year. So I just walk in to a shop, ask for emission check and tell them to run hotrod class? ECU is chipped P75 running Jun program, but I guess it should pass since the limit is higher?

zeeman

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ya, pretty much....just tell them you've got a bigger engine in your car

Nova_Dust

Would a shop give you a hard time or refuse to run your car as hotrod?

zeeman

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if they do, tell them not to do the e-test and just go somewhere else.

imported_chris_v2

charles.. just a warning, i was running a modified p75 map, and it was running rich at idle, and lean at WOT. Those things are not good for b20's! Ask zeeman.. when we got street tuning I was pretty surprised... but im sure you probably got it tuned.

Nova_Dust

Thanks Chris. But the car was never tuned. It was chipped, that's all. A program burnt by eg6ajk (Hyper Duck Tuning) so I don't know if it will have rich/idle and lean/wot condition.

I have until August 10th to do the test and renew the sticker. If I get the bottom end built, it will get tuned. If not, then I am not sure if I should spend the money to tune it just for this?

1ofAkind

Well today i took my 92 SI hatch to acura to get it e-tested. I knew the car was running rich before i took it but i figured it would be fine if i ran it as a hot rod since the limits are far more. here's how it went down..

MOTOR:
jdm b16. using converted p06 ECU. I had the chip reburnt as of yesterday to run a basic stock b16 program with no fuel advancements. The motor doesn't burn oil or blow smoke. Magnaflow HIGH FLOW cat installed as of yesterday also. Oil is clean and i only run 91 octane Shell V-power and every other fill up Sunoco Ultra 94. So the gas i'm using is not an issue.

What was done just before emissions:
My friend, who used to do emissions at the shop he worked at before advised that I advance my timing all the way so the motor runs hot (i know some of you are thinking, aren't you supposed to retard it?). I brought that to his attention and he said..the only time you retard it is if you're car is failing on "knox" or something like that...don't know the correct spelling. Anyways i didn't like the fact that acura had the car sit for like an hour. Then drove it in and went at it. Obviously it wasn't hot anymore and it had cooled off. Here are the results.i'm not going to post the results for "40 km/h" since i failed both runs at curb idle.

RAN AS STOCK:

HC ppm= Limit: 200 Reading: 290
CO%= Limit: 1 Reading: 5.49

RAN AS HOT ROD:

HC ppm= Limit: 300 Reading: 271 pass there
CO%= Limit: 1.5 Reading: 4.75 and the one that made me fail

Any suggestions besides what i already have planned..I have another o2 laying around so i'll throw that in. I had the current o2 bung socket relocated to the side of the header on the collector instead of being ontop because it was being crushed against the rack. Put fresh plugs in today before test. The distributor isn't even a month old...but i was told to still check the rotor and cap since it's not an OEM honda dizzy(haven't done that as yet). I've gotten some suggestions to grab that "GUARANTEED TO PASS" stuff that crappy tire sells and change the o2. Watch my milage per tank to see if it increases with the other o2 to see if it's good...then give it a shot. Thanks for all your help in advance

imported_djtrini

Do you have an adjustable Fuel pressure regulator?

I've had lots of friends pass e-tests by turning down their fuel pressure on the regulator and go and do the e-test.

I had a problem with an o2 sensor b4, changed it and noticed increase of 100km per tank!

Cynikal.Mindset

those high flow cats are notorious for failing e-tests

1ofAkind

I know they're shyt..they only last about a year..but my cousin had the same cat on his b16 and he passed e-test...and that was run as a stock motor. It passed on his 2000 b16 in his eg. I'm going to run some of that canadian tire stuff and prolly some gas line anti freeze too. Run it hot as ***** and drive straight into the service bay, make sure i don't take it back to a dealership that will let it sit for like an hour before doing it.

By the way, i'm surprised i got acura to run it as a rod since it's a 1.6l, that's the displacement of the motor that came in the car. It all depends on the e-test tech you get. Some of them are strict and say no to running it as a rod. I had a cool young guy that mods too...so he ran it as a rod for me. I would advise anyone that wants to have their car ran as a rod..make sure you speak to the place before hand about the motor and if they would. I went to a shop before i went to acura and they said no.

1ofAkind

no FPR..however i had a fuel pressure from some other motor before and the fuel pressure was lower than it should be. Just before e-test i installed the proper b16 one and it bumped up the pressure to where it should be ofcourse.

Nova_Dust

I called a shop requesting emission test done as a hotrod class, he said unless the ownership says "hotrod", he cannot run it because I requested it.

uumm... what to do?

Nova_Dust

What I found on Driveclean.com

zeeman

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i'd just go to another shop that will test your car as a hot-rod....there are a million places out there that do etests, so i'm sure you'll find a place that will do it no problem.

My buddys car that we just finished building (del sol with fully built b16 w/GT35R turbo and 750cc injectors) just passed etest as a hot rod, so for people who think their modded cars (specifically boosted cars) won't pass etest, as long as the tuning is up to par, the car should pass without too many problems.