Hyundai Elantra versus Honda Civic
29-Nov-2011, 08:01 AM
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Hyundai Elantra versus Honda Civic
The Honda Civic and Hyundai Elantra are locked in a tight, two-way battle for the top-selling passenger car in Canada, while the Ford F-series pickup truck has a lock on the top-selling light truck, according to DesRosiers Automotive Consultants.
The new Hyundai Elantra has seen sales rise by 33.3 per cent this year. while the Honda Civic has seen sales decline by 12.4 per cent. The Honda Civic remains the No. 1-selling passenger car for October and yearto-date but by fewer than 3,000 units. Sales this year for Civic are 42,748, and Elantra sales are 40,051.
"I doubt whether the Elantra can catch the Civic this year, especially since supply issues with the Civic are receding, but the simple fact that any vehicle has threatened the Civic is significant, since it has been the dominate passenger car in the market for well over a decade," said industry analyst Dennis DesRosiers.
Three Detroit-built vehicles have made it to the Top 10 passenger car list - Chevrolet Cruze, Ford Focus and Ford Fusion.
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13-Jul-2012, 03:31 AM
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For me, the Honda Civic is still the best. I have a 2010 Honda Civic and I really love it because it's fun to drive, has excellent fuel economy, has better gas mileage than many cars of comparable size and an appealing exterior design. 
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27-Oct-2012, 12:20 AM
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08-Jan-2013, 02:21 PM
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It's very subjective, really. I find the Elantra very fun to drive, but something to keep in mind is that these are not "sports cars" by any means. That being said, there were too many other reasons I chose the Elantra over the civic.
To each, his/her own.
This segment (compact) is one of the most competitive at the moment. All manufacturers are producing great vehicles, each with there own set of +'s and -'s. In the end it boils down to which car you like the most that meets your needs/wants.
To each, his/her own.
This segment (compact) is one of the most competitive at the moment. All manufacturers are producing great vehicles, each with there own set of +'s and -'s. In the end it boils down to which car you like the most that meets your needs/wants.
12-Jan-2013, 11:29 PM
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Having worked for both companies I have to say, after 2001, for the most part no one is making anything worth buying, lease it and trade it in 3 yrs later. That's what they want you to do and that's what they build them to do. They don't make anything off the 2nd owner. Dealers aren't even making anything off the cars anymore for maintenance and repairs, everyone comes in for service and goes somewhere cheaper for repairs.
That said Mike, I think it's good you didn't buy a Civic, but I hope you didn't BUY an Accent either. Hyundai has come a long way in the last decade and are way above what they used to turn out. But it's only cause the others have lowered production costs buy making cars that look real pretty outta cheaper materials that they are "comparable"
But then again in all the years I worked on Honda's the worst I've seen off the line was a bulb out, other issues with design like the syncro issue with some of the higher revving K's but that's not build, that's really mostly abuse or other problems that are usually due to neglect of maintaining the vehicle and even then they were usually a few years old.
I didn't see a brand new car bought back the next day because it didn't make it home without 6 CEL's. I didn't see an average of a car a month come in before the first oil change was due needing a new block because the oil control rings were forgotten during assembly.
That said Mike, I think it's good you didn't buy a Civic, but I hope you didn't BUY an Accent either. Hyundai has come a long way in the last decade and are way above what they used to turn out. But it's only cause the others have lowered production costs buy making cars that look real pretty outta cheaper materials that they are "comparable"
But then again in all the years I worked on Honda's the worst I've seen off the line was a bulb out, other issues with design like the syncro issue with some of the higher revving K's but that's not build, that's really mostly abuse or other problems that are usually due to neglect of maintaining the vehicle and even then they were usually a few years old.
I didn't see a brand new car bought back the next day because it didn't make it home without 6 CEL's. I didn't see an average of a car a month come in before the first oil change was due needing a new block because the oil control rings were forgotten during assembly.
14-Jan-2013, 09:58 AM
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^Hey Dusty. Long time, no see!
Well I didn't buy an Accent (too small), I bought an Elantra.
I'm financing it and plan to pay it off long before the term (to save the interest). I also plan to own this car for a very long time (8 years +). Considering my full warranty is for 8 years or 160,000kms, I'm covered well beyond the typical trade-in term. With people who lease and trade in every 3-4 years, they are ALWAYS paying. Essentially renting new cars for 3-4 years at a time. I don't want that. I want to buy to own and keep for as long as the car will last. Knowing I can perform the proper maintenance, I'm confident it'll be fine.
2013 is the 3rd year of this generation Elantra. Talk on Hyundai forums seems to indicate the issues with this car (there weren't many, and they were very minor) have been ironed out.
I understand and have heard the comments about these Korean cars in that they just make them look good, while cutting costs in material quality and other areas. Having done months of research and now having owned one for 3-4 weeks, I can say that is not true. What they have done is spent money in the right places (safety, engine/transmission, features, interior/exterior design) and stuck to the basics where it's not as important for this segment. Sure it's got trailer rear suspension and I can feel the effects of that over large bumps. But I don't care because it still handles great, looks great, is loaded with features and is just as fast as my supra (no joke
). If I wanted a super-handling car, I'd have bought an FR-S. If I wanted a super-luxurious car, I'd have bought a Lexus or Mercedes... You get my point.
All I'm saying is there is a lot of misunderstanding among the brands, especially the Korean brands. I spent a lot of time and test drove many different cars. The end conclusion that pushed me to buy the Elantra was this: It's not the best at any one particular thing, but it's very good at everything. Factor in the highest value per dollar in terms of features/options, it's precisely what I was looking for in a daily commuter and then some.
The vehicle that was most disappointing to me was the Dodge Dart 1.4 turbo. It's too large a vehicle (too heavy) with too small of an engine. Once boost hits, it's nothing special. I'm sure the larger 2.4L engine is much more exciting, but that defeats the purpose of buying this type of car for fuel economy.
The Focus I liked, especially the dual-clutch 6 speed auto. But that was also it's down-fall for me. Early issues with that trans makes me worry about it's longevity and costs for repairs later on. Also it was $3-4k more than the Elantra, similarly equipped and has very disappointing rear seat room.
Chevy Cruze was meh. Although it has a 6 speed auto, it's programming was horrible. Required you to put your foot down half-way before it wakes up. Also found it a little down on power. Just bland over all. Never priced one out.
Mazda 3, never actually drove or looked at. Was more expensive to add the options I wanted and the interior is dated and plain. The auto trans is only a 5 speed which means taller gears. Not crazy about exterior design either.
Civic was decent. Not keen on the interior/exterior. Also only a 5 speed auto and a little down on power. But same thing, again, was more money to add the features/options I wanted.
The Elantra looks good, makes good power, 6 speed auto reacts quickly (just have to breath on the throttle to get it to kick down and take off) and the gears ratios are very well spaced out. Had all the features and options I wanted in the GLS trim for the price I was wanted to pay.
Sorry for the long post, but just wanted to show why I chose it.
But again, it's very subjective. Other people will choose other cars for different reasons.
Anyways, hope to see ya at a meet in the spring. Perhaps we'll do a TCC reunion meet.
Well I didn't buy an Accent (too small), I bought an Elantra.
I'm financing it and plan to pay it off long before the term (to save the interest). I also plan to own this car for a very long time (8 years +). Considering my full warranty is for 8 years or 160,000kms, I'm covered well beyond the typical trade-in term. With people who lease and trade in every 3-4 years, they are ALWAYS paying. Essentially renting new cars for 3-4 years at a time. I don't want that. I want to buy to own and keep for as long as the car will last. Knowing I can perform the proper maintenance, I'm confident it'll be fine. 2013 is the 3rd year of this generation Elantra. Talk on Hyundai forums seems to indicate the issues with this car (there weren't many, and they were very minor) have been ironed out.
I understand and have heard the comments about these Korean cars in that they just make them look good, while cutting costs in material quality and other areas. Having done months of research and now having owned one for 3-4 weeks, I can say that is not true. What they have done is spent money in the right places (safety, engine/transmission, features, interior/exterior design) and stuck to the basics where it's not as important for this segment. Sure it's got trailer rear suspension and I can feel the effects of that over large bumps. But I don't care because it still handles great, looks great, is loaded with features and is just as fast as my supra (no joke
). If I wanted a super-handling car, I'd have bought an FR-S. If I wanted a super-luxurious car, I'd have bought a Lexus or Mercedes... You get my point. All I'm saying is there is a lot of misunderstanding among the brands, especially the Korean brands. I spent a lot of time and test drove many different cars. The end conclusion that pushed me to buy the Elantra was this: It's not the best at any one particular thing, but it's very good at everything. Factor in the highest value per dollar in terms of features/options, it's precisely what I was looking for in a daily commuter and then some.
The vehicle that was most disappointing to me was the Dodge Dart 1.4 turbo. It's too large a vehicle (too heavy) with too small of an engine. Once boost hits, it's nothing special. I'm sure the larger 2.4L engine is much more exciting, but that defeats the purpose of buying this type of car for fuel economy.
The Focus I liked, especially the dual-clutch 6 speed auto. But that was also it's down-fall for me. Early issues with that trans makes me worry about it's longevity and costs for repairs later on. Also it was $3-4k more than the Elantra, similarly equipped and has very disappointing rear seat room.
Chevy Cruze was meh. Although it has a 6 speed auto, it's programming was horrible. Required you to put your foot down half-way before it wakes up. Also found it a little down on power. Just bland over all. Never priced one out.
Mazda 3, never actually drove or looked at. Was more expensive to add the options I wanted and the interior is dated and plain. The auto trans is only a 5 speed which means taller gears. Not crazy about exterior design either.
Civic was decent. Not keen on the interior/exterior. Also only a 5 speed auto and a little down on power. But same thing, again, was more money to add the features/options I wanted.
The Elantra looks good, makes good power, 6 speed auto reacts quickly (just have to breath on the throttle to get it to kick down and take off) and the gears ratios are very well spaced out. Had all the features and options I wanted in the GLS trim for the price I was wanted to pay.
Sorry for the long post, but just wanted to show why I chose it.
But again, it's very subjective.
Other people will choose other cars for different reasons.Anyways, hope to see ya at a meet in the spring. Perhaps we'll do a TCC reunion meet.
18-Jan-2013, 07:06 PM
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Does anyone who's been on here for more then 5 years even own a civic anymore?
I mean I guess my CRX is technically a Civic but...
As for the part about materiel quality, I don't feel that it's the Koreans I think It's everyone. All the manufacturers are doing their best to make cars look good but with crappy parts. It's like the best ricers have taken over designing cars. Not that they're ricey looking but they are the best looking budget parts out there, like the true ricer would have. Crappy parts that look as cheap as they are is more of a redneck thing that might happen to own a Honda or a Cavalier.
Mike I hope you still have something to project car. I only really use forums for classifieds but thats a pretty dead thing here and your builds like the SiRally was classic. We need more from you like that here.
I mean I guess my CRX is technically a Civic but...
As for the part about materiel quality, I don't feel that it's the Koreans I think It's everyone. All the manufacturers are doing their best to make cars look good but with crappy parts. It's like the best ricers have taken over designing cars. Not that they're ricey looking but they are the best looking budget parts out there, like the true ricer would have. Crappy parts that look as cheap as they are is more of a redneck thing that might happen to own a Honda or a Cavalier.
Mike I hope you still have something to project car. I only really use forums for classifieds but thats a pretty dead thing here and your builds like the SiRally was classic. We need more from you like that here.
21-Jan-2013, 09:59 AM
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Does anyone who's been on here for more then 5 years even own a civic anymore?
I mean I guess my CRX is technically a Civic but...
As for the part about materiel quality, I don't feel that it's the Koreans I think It's everyone. All the manufacturers are doing their best to make cars look good but with crappy parts. It's like the best ricers have taken over designing cars. Not that they're ricey looking but they are the best looking budget parts out there, like the true ricer would have. Crappy parts that look as cheap as they are is more of a redneck thing that might happen to own a Honda or a Cavalier.
Mike I hope you still have something to project car. I only really use forums for classifieds but thats a pretty dead thing here and your builds like the SiRally was classic. We need more from you like that here.
I mean I guess my CRX is technically a Civic but...
As for the part about materiel quality, I don't feel that it's the Koreans I think It's everyone. All the manufacturers are doing their best to make cars look good but with crappy parts. It's like the best ricers have taken over designing cars. Not that they're ricey looking but they are the best looking budget parts out there, like the true ricer would have. Crappy parts that look as cheap as they are is more of a redneck thing that might happen to own a Honda or a Cavalier.
Mike I hope you still have something to project car. I only really use forums for classifieds but thats a pretty dead thing here and your builds like the SiRally was classic. We need more from you like that here.
Sure, the manufacturers aren't using the best materials, but they also aren't using the worst. The interior of my car, imo, looks fantastic, but I know the brushed aluminum isn't really aluminum and that's ok. It's not a Mercedes and I wouldn't expect it to be like one. Not that that was the comparison you were making, but I think you get what I'm saying.
About project cars... yeah, they were fun at the time, no doubt. But I'm getting older now and my priorities have shifted. Looking back on how much money I've spend on Project SiRally and the likes, it's just not practical to do such things to your daily driver. I can't afford nor justify owning two cars and putting lots of money into one for the sake of some hooning on the weekends. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE cars and love seeing modded cars tearing up the track, but at this point in my life, it's not a deep interest for me to spend money doing it myself anymore. The wife and I are looking to get a place of our own and that leaves little extra money or time for a project car. I do a decent amount of driving for work and the Supra was becoming a burden, not only for reliability and dependability, but in fuel costs to operate. It was fun and I will miss it, but it's time to move on.
So far, I'm loving this Elantra. It sips fuel and is just as fast as the supra, just not rwd. All the tech and features makes it that much nicer to drive as well. Heated seats FTW!!!
In a few years, if finances allow, I would definitely like to get back in the project car game and build something fun.
23-Jan-2013, 07:29 PM
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Hide the supra away, store it as smartly as possible and take her out on the odd weekend now and then till one day you can give back to her what she give you. Thats basically my CRX right now. Tho I'm still slowly modding it and my teg too but now that I'm married and have a kid I hear you on the priorities side of things.
17-Apr-2014, 10:31 AM
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I'd choose the elantra over the civic any day and got myself one from Kijiji: Free Classifieds in Toronto (GTA). Find a job, buy a car, find a house or apartment, furniture, appliances and more! . The elantra is a much more fun car and is fast with heated seatsand made of good quality interior materials. What's not to love ?!
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